Would a moderate conservate Mennonite chuch (Like Beachy Amish) allow the prodigal son to be a member?

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Re: Would a moderate conservate Mennonite chuch (Like Beachy Amish) allow the prodigal son to be a member?

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God called David a man after his own heart but David would not qualify for membership in our church. Nor would Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Noah, Samuel, Samson...
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Re: Would a moderate conservate Mennonite chuch (Like Beachy Amish) allow the prodigal son to be a member?

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barnhart wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:09 pm God called David a man after his own heart but David would not qualify for membership in our church. Nor would Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Noah, Samuel, Samson...
Samson… yeah he couldn’t be a member

David was specifically told he couldn’t build the temple because he was a man of war.

Why would you exclude Samuel?
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Re: Would a moderate conservate Mennonite chuch (Like Beachy Amish) allow the prodigal son to be a member?

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Heirbyadoption wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:18 am
mrbilliam wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 pmProdigal son was given a ring by the Father.
In an utterly different context from marriage. Until you recognize that fact and quit attempting to force it to mean something else (aka eisegesis), this discussion won't really go anywhere, unfortunately. :-|
It is also called perseveration. (a new word I learned today)
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Re: Would a moderate conservate Mennonite chuch (Like Beachy Amish) allow the prodigal son to be a member?

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Soloist wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:13 pm
barnhart wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:09 pm God called David a man after his own heart but David would not qualify for membership in our church. Nor would Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Noah, Samuel, Samson...
Samson… yeah he couldn’t be a member

David was specifically told he couldn’t build the temple because he was a man of war.

Why would you exclude Samuel?
Maybe if for no other reason the fact that he wasn't born again?
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ken_sylvania wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:05 pm Maybe if for no other reason the fact that he wasn't born again?
He spoke to God and God spoke to him. I’d say he’s got a one up on most of us.
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Soloist wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:13 pm
barnhart wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:09 pm God called David a man after his own heart but David would not qualify for membership in our church. Nor would Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Noah, Samuel, Samson...
Samson… yeah he couldn’t be a member

David was specifically told he couldn’t build the temple because he was a man of war.

Why would you exclude Samuel?
1Sam 15:30-35
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barnhart wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:01 pm 1Sam 15:30-35
I guess I would disagree.
If God commanded us to slay our enemies and we knew it was God, would we not obey?
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Then we would be in the eschaton and our fellowship will no longer exist. As long as our church exists, he will not qualify.
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barnhart wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:17 pm Then we would be in the eschaton and our fellowship will no longer exist. As long as our church exists, he will not qualify.
Hypothetical as he is dead and either waiting in Paradise or in Heaven.
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I think most have caught on...

I'm just saying that a simple ring banning is a superfluous argument. There is no cause for it really, except to just make a rule. Any woman or man wearing a simple band would not be in biblical sin.
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