When every thread eventually becomes about the One True Church and Eastern Orthodoxy, it seems apropos to ask the person steering it in that direction exactly why they attend Begg's church which is neither Orthodox nor believes itself the One True Church.MaxPC wrote: I wonder how Begg enters into and begs the topic of Penance which is what this thread is about?
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I find your reply to this intriguing, somewhat misleading- I am not the one who brought up Alistair Begg- Josh put me in the list of people in this thread and seemed to ask verification for where 'we' are at presently in church. I simply replied we were attending a 'non-denominational' church- then the darts came out, Begg was brought up by 'others' not me, and then I am accused of bringing all this into the thread, when I was simply answering a question- I am very sorry Max, that was not my intent at all! This should be very telling indeed.Josh wrote:When every thread eventually becomes about the One True Church and Eastern Orthodoxy, it seems apropos to ask the person steering it in that direction exactly why they attend Begg's church which is neither Orthodox nor believes itself the One True Church.MaxPC wrote: I wonder how Begg enters into and begs the topic of Penance which is what this thread is about?
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Anytime you enter a conversation, the darts come out for how the rest of us should embrace Eastern Orthodoxy.
I'd be a lot more comfortable if you just shared what you've learned from Begg that's applicable instead of complaining that the rest of us aren't following Orthodox doctrine.
I'd be a lot more comfortable if you just shared what you've learned from Begg that's applicable instead of complaining that the rest of us aren't following Orthodox doctrine.
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Back to "doing penance", can we all repent of bad-mouthing everyone else's faith and focus on how to live out our own?
I think it's important to be clear about whether claims people make are true or not, e.g. if we are going to have claims about how Catholics do penance, using the Catechism and other official sources to verify claims is important. But I don't think we should be sitting in judgement on others.
I do think we should discern what is right. I think that can be done in a more charitable tone.
I think it's important to be clear about whether claims people make are true or not, e.g. if we are going to have claims about how Catholics do penance, using the Catechism and other official sources to verify claims is important. But I don't think we should be sitting in judgement on others.
I do think we should discern what is right. I think that can be done in a more charitable tone.
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Thank you, Valerie. I appreciate your apology.Valerie wrote:I find your reply to this intriguing, somewhat misleading- I am not the one who brought up Alistair Begg- Josh put me in the list of people in this thread and seemed to ask verification for where 'we' are at presently in church. I simply replied we were attending a 'non-denominational' church- then the darts came out, Begg was brought up by 'others' not me, and then I am accused of bringing all this into the thread, when I was simply answering a question- I am very sorry Max, that was not my intent at all! This should be very telling indeed.Josh wrote:When every thread eventually becomes about the One True Church and Eastern Orthodoxy, it seems apropos to ask the person steering it in that direction exactly why they attend Begg's church which is neither Orthodox nor believes itself the One True Church.MaxPC wrote: I wonder how Begg enters into and begs the topic of Penance which is what this thread is about?
As the OP/creator of the thread I'm sending a reminder:
-active Anabaptist members only
-how is this topic applied within your fellowship.
If there is no other input that meets these criteria then this topic is closed.
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Mt 24:35
Proverbs 18:2 A fool does not delight in understanding but only in revealing his own mind.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God
Re: Doing Penance
I think that's up to Robert.MaxPC wrote:If there is no other input that meets these criteria then this topic is closed.
But you have made quite a few claims about how Catholics do penance, and I think they are at odds with other things quoted from official sources. Most of these threads you start get around to making claims about Catholics, then you say that discussing your claims is out of scope.
So back to this:
I do think we should be determining whether the things people say are true or not. It's possible that some of us are wrong, if so I would like to see information from official sources that says so. If not, I would like to see you correct some of the things you have said.Bootstrap wrote:I think it's important to be clear about whether claims people make are true or not, e.g. if we are going to have claims about how Catholics do penance, using the Catechism and other official sources to verify claims is important. But I don't think we should be sitting in judgement on others.
Truth does not need a bodyguard. Let's not enable this game.
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