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MaxPC wrote:Does the ACC Nazarean have a website?
This is the branch that continues full time head covering, yes?
The group as a whole does not. Some affiliated organisations in America do.
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Josh wrote:
MaxPC wrote:Does the ACC Nazarean have a website?
This is the branch that continues full time head covering, yes?
The group as a whole does not. Some affiliated organisations in America do.
How would one go about finding one of their churches?

Do the affliated groups have a website?
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Where is the church[es] is Sweden?
Karstan probably confused Sweden with Switzerland (happens all the time). Switzerland is the birthplace of S. H. Fröhlich, the founder of the ACC and still an important center of the faith in Western Europe (along with Germany), whereas there is only one congregation left in Austria and three to five former Fröhlich congregations in France.

As a matter of fact, there used to be two Fröhlich congregations in Sweden at some point but I'd imagine those were established by Nazarene refugees from Eastern Europe settling in Sweden. The location of the first congregation est. 1969 was in Örkelljunga. Not sure if any of these are still active.
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MaxPC wrote:
Josh wrote:
MaxPC wrote:Does the ACC Nazarean have a website?
This is the branch that continues full time head covering, yes?
The group as a whole does not. Some affiliated organisations in America do.
How would one go about finding one of their churches?

Do the affliated groups have a website?
ACC(N) have a website:
http://www.acc-nazarean.org/

I would assume these are the so-called Eastern Conference congregations (more conservative) as opposed to the Western Conference (mostly assimilated). But don't quote me on it, I'm no specialist in the American ACC denominations.
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Swiss Bro wrote:
plain wrote:
Where is the church[es] is Sweden?
Karstan probably confused Sweden with Switzerland (happens all the time). Switzerland is the birthplace of S. H. Fröhlich, the founder of the ACC and still an important center of the faith in Western Europe (along with Germany), whereas there is only one congregation left in Austria and three to five former Fröhlich congregations in France.

As a matter of fact, there used to be two Fröhlich congregations in Sweden at some point but I'd imagine those were established by Nazarene refugees from Eastern Europe settling in Sweden. The location of the first congregation est. 1969 was in Örkelljunga. Not sure if any of these are still active.
Hi Swissbro, I only refer to the Nazarene side in Europe not the ETG (which I’m assuming your background is?). There are still Nazarenes living in Sweden, they are often visited by the churches from Germany. I am German so there’s no confusion there. And Nazarenes are Fröhlich churches, not sure of your meaning there?

For anyone reading along the Nazareners and ETG don’t usually mix at all.

“During the 1980s... a vast majority of churches changing their doctrine and rules to more evangelical/free church standards. Reasons were also, that the church leaders saw no future in keeping the old ways. They formed their own branch (Bund Evangelischer Täufergemeinden) and adopted the name Evangelische Täufergemeinde for most congregations. They currently have churches in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and France (Alsace) and quote to have about 2500 members.
The small fraction that did not join and emphasized more traditional/conservative standards call themselves Gemeinde Evangelisch Taufgesinnter (Nazarener) with churches in Germany and Austria and formerly about 400 members.” From Wikipedia.
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MaxPC wrote:Does the ACC Nazarean have a website?
This is the branch that continues full time head covering, yes?
It really depends on the country you visit. If you would visit some Nazarean church in the US or Canada, you might be confused as some members don’t look much different to their evangelical contemporaries. And still there are others there that are very conservative and women will wear headcoverings that tie at the front.
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Karstan78 wrote:
Hi Swissbro, I only refer to the Nazarene side in Europe not the ETG (which I’m assuming your background is?). There are still Nazarenes living in Sweden, they are often visited by the churches from Germany. I am German so there’s no confusion there. And Nazarenes are Fröhlich churches, not sure of your meaning there?

For anyone reading along the Nazareners and ETG don’t usually mix at all.

“During the 1980s... a vast majority of churches changing their doctrine and rules to more evangelical/free church standards. Reasons were also, that the church leaders saw no future in keeping the old ways. They formed their own branch (Bund Evangelischer Täufergemeinden) and adopted the name Evangelische Täufergemeinde for most congregations. They currently have churches in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and France (Alsace) and quote to have about 2500 members.
The small fraction that did not join and emphasized more traditional/conservative standards call themselves Gemeinde Evangelisch Taufgesinnter (Nazarener) with churches in Germany and Austria and formerly about 400 members.” From Wikipedia.
Hi Karstan. Sorry for thinking you had Sweden and Switzerland confused but that's something Americans sometimes do and this being a (mostly) american forum I thought you were American too ;)

So the Swedish Nazarene congregations are still thriving, nice to hear that! I agree that Nazarenes are Fröhlich churches, obviously . What I meant to say is that the Swedish congregations came out of Eastern European brethren migrating to Sweden due to prosecution during the communist era.

It is true that I am a member of an ETG church which is basically the assimilated branch of the European Fröhlich churches.

I understand that you are from one of the German Nazarener congregations that are not affiliated with the ETG Federation. I hope we'll still get along. :)

Edit: I realise I might get off the wrong foot in these forums. I don't mean that all Amerians can't tell Sweden from Switzerland... :oops:
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Swiss Bro wrote:Edit: I realise I might get off the wrong foot in these forums. I don't mean that all Amerians can't tell Sweden from Switzerland... :oops:
Americans are not all geographically challenged. On the other hand ...

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Swiss Bro wrote:
Karstan78 wrote:

Edit: I realise I might get off the wrong foot in these forums. I don't mean that all Amerians can't tell Sweden from Switzerland... :oops:

No offense taken by this American, I remember my daughter raising a few evebrows by correcting her teacher, only problem for him was that she was consistently right. Until the last 20 years or so, the vast majority of Americans didn’t even have a passport.

I am in Switzerland now, trying to find as many old hidden Alttäufergemeinde churches as I can, it sure is not easy.

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ohio jones wrote: Americans are not all geographically challenged. On the other hand ...
LOL, well Australia / Austria is the other classic confusion. Switzerland is also sometimes confused with Swaziland but the latter now changed names to Eswatini so that should be fine. To be fair, ask any European where the state of Washington is and 90% will probably come up with somewhere around D.C. ;)
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