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Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:26 pm
by MaxPC
Neto wrote:I don't think openness to serving in some capacity which may involve lethal force would always follow registration for concealed carry, but I suspect that a person moving toward use of lethal force (whether as a job or as "self defense") would first acquire a handgun and register for concealed carry.

My grandpa lived all of his life on the high plains in western Oklahoma, and never had a gun at all. I grew up east of there (also in Oklahoma), and we had water moccasins all over the place, especially around the ponds, and didn't need guns, especially not pistols.

Some of my dad's younger cousins had rifles for hunting growing up, and they were refused CO status because they hunted. That was up to the local draft board, but the attitude was there already then, that if you killed animals, you shouldn't object to killing the enemies of the nation. (This was in Garfield County, Oklahoma, in the late 50's & 60's.)
Very true. Even in the 40s this was the case.

Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:01 pm
by Bootstrap
I carry a .38 spl. in my back pocket while working outside in our gardens. First two rounds are birdshot. Hollow points after that. We had a real bad critter problem in our compost bins (rats). So there's more than one reason to pack heat.
What are the hollow points for?

Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:05 pm
by ohio jones
Bootstrap wrote:
I carry a .38 spl. in my back pocket while working outside in our gardens. First two rounds are birdshot. Hollow points after that. We had a real bad critter problem in our compost bins (rats). So there's more than one reason to pack heat.
What are the hollow points for?
Mushrooming, I suspect.

No, seriously. It's a legitimate morel use of the technology. The bullet expands (mushrooms) inside the rat, rather than passing clean through and damaging something beyond. And in case of a miss, less chance of ricochet.

Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:39 am
by Hats Off
Couldn't resist, eh? Is that a morel failure?

Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:15 pm
by RZehr
Bootstrap wrote:
I carry a .38 spl. in my back pocket while working outside in our gardens. First two rounds are birdshot. Hollow points after that. We had a real bad critter problem in our compost bins (rats). So there's more than one reason to pack heat.
What are the hollow points for?
I never used a .38 before, but I imagine that if the first two shots miss, the rat will be out of birdshot range and you'd need a solid bullet by the third shot. They're speedy little buggers.

Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:51 pm
by silentreader
ohio jones wrote:
Bootstrap wrote:
I carry a .38 spl. in my back pocket while working outside in our gardens. First two rounds are birdshot. Hollow points after that. We had a real bad critter problem in our compost bins (rats). So there's more than one reason to pack heat.
What are the hollow points for?
Mushrooming, I suspect.

No, seriously. It's a legitimate morel use of the technology. The bullet expands (mushrooms) inside the rat, rather than passing clean through and damaging something beyond. And in case of a miss, less chance of ricochet.
Is this Military or Law Enforcement?

Re: Anabaptists Serving in Law Enforcement and the Military

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:08 pm
by ohio jones
I'd consider it enforcement of the local "no rats in the compost bin" law. But maybe that's a hollow point, and the discussion actually has gone OT.