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Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:08 pm
by Szdfan
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm
Soloist wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:30 pm
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:25 pm I think that even if I wasn't politically engaged, I would know who was running for president, at least because my neighbors would let me know. When one of the neighbors puts up a giant TRUMP / JFK JR 2024 banner alongside the road, it's hard not to know.
My friends live in the country and when I drove through there and his route to work, there was no political signs. I saw a few on my drive to work but it was a major road and not a small country road.
Could be the area you live in. I live in a deeply conservative rural area where the Republican Party is a big deal. I often hear pro-Trump, anti-Biden comments from my students, which I assume is stuff they are hearing from their parents. I'll be happy to never have to hear "Let's Go Brandon" ever again.
That being said outside of the two major parties how many of the independent parties do you know of?
Off the top of my head?

The Green Party
The Libertarians
The Freedom Party
The Socialist Democrats of America'
The American Constitution Party
The Constitution Party
The No Labels Party
The Communist Party of America

While third parties may have some effect in local and state politics, they are largely irrelevant on the national stage, except as occasional spoilers, such as Ross Perot and perhaps RFK Jr.
I just remembered the Tea Party, but I don't think they were ever an independent party, just a faction within the Republicans.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:15 pm
by ken_sylvania
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Could be the area you live in. I live in a deeply conservative rural area where the Republican Party is a big deal. I often hear pro-Trump, anti-Biden comments from my students, which I assume is stuff they are hearing from their parents. I'll be happy to never have to hear "Let's Go Brandon" ever again.
I wonder what forum policy is on using obscene language...

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:16 pm
by Ken
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:08 pm
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm
Soloist wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:30 pm

My friends live in the country and when I drove through there and his route to work, there was no political signs. I saw a few on my drive to work but it was a major road and not a small country road.
Could be the area you live in. I live in a deeply conservative rural area where the Republican Party is a big deal. I often hear pro-Trump, anti-Biden comments from my students, which I assume is stuff they are hearing from their parents. I'll be happy to never have to hear "Let's Go Brandon" ever again.
That being said outside of the two major parties how many of the independent parties do you know of?
Off the top of my head?

The Green Party
The Libertarians
The Freedom Party
The Socialist Democrats of America'
The American Constitution Party
The Constitution Party
The No Labels Party
The Communist Party of America

While third parties may have some effect in local and state politics, they are largely irrelevant on the national stage, except as occasional spoilers, such as Ross Perot and perhaps RFK Jr.
I just remembered the Tea Party, but I don't think they were ever an independent party, just a faction within the Republicans.
Tea party was an "astroturf" movement, not an actual political party. I think the name came from the Boston Tea Party rather than political party. So yes, you had Republicans politicians advertising their tea party bona fides. Just like you have Republican politicians advertising their MAGA bona fides today. But it wasn't a 3rd party.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:30 pm
by Soloist
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Off the top of my head?

The Green Party
The Libertarians
The Freedom Party
The Socialist Democrats of America'
The American Constitution Party
The Constitution Party
The No Labels Party
The Communist Party of America

While third parties may have some effect in local and state politics, they are largely irrelevant on the national stage, except as occasional spoilers, such as Ross Perot and perhaps RFK Jr.
Well I was meaning who was running, I could have phrased that better. I think the fact that they are irrelevant is disappointing but having looked into places with viable third parties or ranked based voting I don’t really see much difference.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:59 pm
by MaxPC
QuietlyListening wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:45 pm
I would be completely ignorant of the election or who was running if it wasn’t for plain news and Mennonet.
My friends live in the country and when I drove through there and his route to work, there was no political signs. I saw a few on my drive to work but it was a major road and not a small country road.
We live in the country - most of it is favors Trump- and still see signs from last election or ones about election being stolen and then some signs that include out and out vulgar cuss words. See a few Biden signs but as I said this tends to be more Trump favorable. Can't get away from it and the election season has barely begun.
I just keep reminding myself- God changes the times and seasons and He sets up kings (rulers) and removes kings (rulers). It's in His hands. So I just pray that God's people- the church- will focus on Him not who is in charge.
Agreed. Well said.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:07 pm
by Szdfan
ken_sylvania wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:15 pm
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Could be the area you live in. I live in a deeply conservative rural area where the Republican Party is a big deal. I often hear pro-Trump, anti-Biden comments from my students, which I assume is stuff they are hearing from their parents. I'll be happy to never have to hear "Let's Go Brandon" ever again.
I wonder what forum policy is on using obscene language...
I believe this is a case where a euphemism is being used as code for obscene language rather than obscene language itself.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:08 pm
by Szdfan
Soloist wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:30 pm
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Off the top of my head?

The Green Party
The Libertarians
The Freedom Party
The Socialist Democrats of America'
The American Constitution Party
The Constitution Party
The No Labels Party
The Communist Party of America

While third parties may have some effect in local and state politics, they are largely irrelevant on the national stage, except as occasional spoilers, such as Ross Perot and perhaps RFK Jr.
Well I was meaning who was running, I could have phrased that better. I think the fact that they are irrelevant is disappointing but having looked into places with viable third parties or ranked based voting I don’t really see much difference.
Other than RFK Jr., I'm afraid I don't know what other third-party candidates are running.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:31 pm
by Soloist
Szdfan wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:08 pm
Other than RFK Jr., I'm afraid I don't know what other third-party candidates are running.
Me neither, I had a point… but I have forgotten it :laugh

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:31 pm
by ohio jones
ken_sylvania wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:15 pm I wonder what forum policy is on using obscene language...
If someone reports it to the sight police, we would probably remove it from site.

Re: MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:34 am
by mike
ohio jones wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:31 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:15 pm I wonder what forum policy is on using obscene language...
If someone reports it to the sight police, we would probably remove it from site.
We appear to have ratcheted things up another level beyond thought police.