MennoNet Politics Sabbatical

[ohio jones]

No one's minds are ever changed here

And you accuse others of living in a black and white world?
http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3453

Touche!

I expect you have an example ready at your finger tips to prove me wrong?

Several of them in that thread, not to mention 14 people ready to testify (unless someone changes their vote, which they can truthfully only do from No to Yes).

I knew nothing about Holdmans, for example, before coming here.

Next up: Changing your mind about the spelling of "Holdeman."

[PetrChelcicky]

I don' think that affiliations will change by such debates. But doggedly affiliations are more like doggedly friendships, and why should they change?
On the other hand I think that standpoints are really modified by such debates.We learn to see that our standpoint had some hidden "presuppositions" or "implications". Like we say something but imply a qualification of our words which we didn't see and express beforehand. Or we see a hidden principle which leads our reasoning and which only now we try to express.
But these presupposed qualifications and principles will stay in our mind now and have an influence on our farther cognitive development. Say not the struggle not availeth ...

[temporal1]

I don' think that affiliations will change by such debates. But doggedly affiliations are more like doggedly friendships, and why should they change?

On the other hand I think that standpoints are really modified by such debates.

We learn to see that our standpoint had some hidden "presuppositions" or "implications".
Like we say something but imply a qualification of our words which we didn't see and express beforehand. Or we see a hidden principle which leads our reasoning and which only now we try to express.
But these presupposed qualifications and principles will stay in our mind now and have an influence on our farther cognitive development.

Say not the struggle not availeth ...

PetrC, this resonates!
This morning i’m thinking of a new thread, really asking for help with writing skills.
i’m having trouble.
(i hope it’s ok? - i now plan to use this post as part of the beginning.)

“Writing skills:” ..
http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php ... 56#p113256

the poem! i found it and plan to study it. lovely.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/ ... t-availeth

what a great way to begin a new day. thank you for being you.

[Bootstrap]

If this is the focus of the sabbatical, I think it will be time well-spent.

You should be safe as long as you focus on

Lessons for the Church from the DC Riots

rather than

Lessons for the Church from the DC Riots

In 40 days, the world will have sorted out what happened in the DC riots. People will have been identified and charged with crimes, the back story on how this was all organized will be clearer, they may or may not find appropriate and effective responses, I pray that they do.

But it's more important for us to sort out the church, our allegiances, our world view, our walk with Jesus together.

[Robert]

In 40 days, the world will have sorted out what happened in the DC riots.

Our discussions and plan to do this predated the DC events. Correlation does not mean causation.

[joshuabgood]

I respect the decision. But it would be nice to have more notice. I saw Ernie responded to something I had written in his poll and I'd like to know what it was but I cant go see it.

Any reason you can't make that division view only?

[Josh]

I respect the decision. But it would be nice to have more notice. I saw Ernie responded to something I had written in his poll and I'd like to know what it was but I cant go see it.

Any reason you can't make that division view only?

You could send him a PM, or pick up the phone and call him, or email, and discuss further amongst yourselves.

[joshuabgood]

I respect the decision. But it would be nice to have more notice. I saw Ernie responded to something I had written in his poll and I'd like to know what it was but I cant go see it.

Any reason you can't make that division view only?

You could send him a PM, or pick up the phone and call him, or email, and discuss further amongst yourselves.

True.

[Robert]

Any reason you can't make that division view only?

I would have to to to each thread to lock them or I could archive the entire section. I chose the easy way. Also "Out of sight, out of mind."

[Neto]

I respect the decision. But it would be nice to have more notice. I saw Ernie responded to something I had written in his poll and I'd like to know what it was but I cant go see it.

Any reason you can't make that division view only?

Reminds me of the other Mennonite forum where I was a member (not MennoDiscuss). It was first set as read-only, for some months, then one day it just disappeared altogether. Later I wished I had gone back & copied some of the stuff I'd written there, and in some cases, whole discussions. Recently I found a Word document for response I made to another member (I often worked in MS Word to get my grammar & spelling right, and to let something cool off, or me, rather, before posting it) who had just said something like "if you thought of that yourself you're a genius". Sometimes, when I'm feeling really stupid, I'd like to know if it really WAS something I'd thought out myself, and what in the world it was about.