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Mississippi / Devastated meteorologist PRAYS on-air as tornado targets small Miss town; at least 25 dead in storms
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/03/26 ... s-1344303/
.. It was then that the gravity of what he was telling viewers appeared to sink in and Laubhan said, “Oh man, north side of Amory, this is coming in.”

“Oh man,” the meteorologist continued, momentarily bowing down. “Dear Jesus, please help them. Amen.”
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temporal1 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:08 am Reading, Pa chocolate factory explosion
viewtopic.php?t=5569

Mississippi / Devastated meteorologist PRAYS on-air as tornado targets small Miss town; at least 25 dead in storms
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/03/26 ... s-1344303/
.. It was then that the gravity of what he was telling viewers appeared to sink in and Laubhan said, “Oh man, north side of Amory, this is coming in.”

“Oh man,” the meteorologist continued, momentarily bowing down. “Dear Jesus, please help them. Amen.”
Saturday night Mom texted me that her best friend in Mississippi was threatened with tornado coming.
I texted her back "we need to agree together in prayer right now" which she agreed. I keep thinking with all these weather crisis state by state people need to be praying- and boldly asked God to show Himself to people through this-

Sunday morning mom texted me that her friends Town got missed. Her friends adult grandchild showed her the radar and said I don't understand what happened we were supposed to get hit. His grandma said "we know what happened" because she knew prayers were going up. Obviously not just ours.

People call this climate change & indeed weather is very tumultuous in areas- honestly I cannot dismiss God and all of this. But maybe I tend to see him and everything and he is sovereign over the weather too.

I remember when hurricane Ian that devastated Florida in the fall hit certain cities that he was on the path towards the Sarasota area. I do remember thinking there's a lot of praying people there! (Thinking about the Amish and Mennonite community for example) not only that there would have been a lot of family members and other Amish communities praying. As it turned out Ian missed that area even though it was expected.

I remember a friend at church calling to pray for a tsunami that was supposed to hit the West Coast several years ago, prayers were being offered in intercession & the tsunami didn't manifest.

Is God looking for us to "see Him" in our weather? There are many passages revealing HE is very Providential in our weather- I have thought through the years that global warming or climate change will be the focus over God being sovereign over the weather and I feel like in my heart of hearts that he is displaying something that is supposed to cause us to think about Him.
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I tend to think that, although God can certainly use any means to get our attention, that weather disasters are mainly brought on by our own doing in how we treat this world. If God does bring about tornatoes, hurricanes, etc to get our attention then I ponder why some areas get hit with these things more than others. Are those folks in Mississippi more deserving than others ? And we know there are tornado seasons and the direction most of these take as we study their history. So, if God is directly involved in using the weather to get our attention, I am not convinced of that at this point.

Does God answer our prayers with regard to praying for His protection when storms come ? I believe if we ask anything according to His purposes He hears us. And I have known some Christians who have prayed for His protection and all around them homes were destroyed but theirs was not touched. But this also occurs to homes where no one prayed. Their homes were not touched either.

I certainly do believe God hears our prayers and answers prayer but as Jesus prayed that the Father would take this cup, He continued to pray but nevertheless not my will but thine be done. I don't doubt many a Christian has prayed for protection during a storm yet died in the storm. I tend to think we should pray in faith for God's protection but at the same time it may be God's time to take us home and/or He is working out His greater purposes by not answering that prayer. So, for me, it is pray and believe God can do anything but also pray willing to accept what He allows or causes to happend.

I have sometimes wondered why God has not caused a major earthquake in places like California and wiped out most of the population there considering their godless ways. The world's specialists believe for some years now that could occur any time now as they study what the earth is doing there. Or why God doesn't take Putin's life before we get to the point of millions being killed. Or why did He not take Hitler's life when millions were killed, etc, etc. But His ways are above our ways and our thoughts so we must trust Him. 'Trust and obey for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus but to trust and obey'.
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Valerie wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:34 am
temporal1 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:08 am Reading, Pa chocolate factory explosion
viewtopic.php?t=5569

Mississippi / Devastated meteorologist PRAYS on-air as tornado targets small Miss town; at least 25 dead in storms
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/03/26 ... s-1344303/
.. It was then that the gravity of what he was telling viewers appeared to sink in and Laubhan said, “Oh man, north side of Amory, this is coming in.”

“Oh man,” the meteorologist continued, momentarily bowing down. “Dear Jesus, please help them. Amen.”
Saturday night Mom texted me that her best friend in Mississippi was threatened with tornado coming.
I texted her back "we need to agree together in prayer right now" which she agreed. I keep thinking with all these weather crisis state by state people need to be praying- and boldly asked God to show Himself to people through this-

Sunday morning mom texted me that her friends Town got missed. Her friends adult grandchild showed her the radar and said I don't understand what happened we were supposed to get hit. His grandma said "we know what happened" because she knew prayers were going up. Obviously not just ours.

People call this climate change & indeed weather is very tumultuous in areas- honestly I cannot dismiss God and all of this. But maybe I tend to see him and everything and he is sovereign over the weather too.

I remember when hurricane Ian that devastated Florida in the fall hit certain cities that he was on the path towards the Sarasota area. I do remember thinking there's a lot of praying people there! (Thinking about the Amish and Mennonite community for example) not only that there would have been a lot of family members and other Amish communities praying. As it turned out Ian missed that area even though it was expected.

I remember a friend at church calling to pray for a tsunami that was supposed to hit the West Coast several years ago, prayers were being offered in intercession & the tsunami didn't manifest.

Is God looking for us to "see Him" in our weather? There are many passages revealing HE is very Providential in our weather- I have thought through the years that global warming or climate change will be the focus over God being sovereign over the weather and I feel like in my heart of hearts that he is displaying something that is supposed to cause us to think about Him.
What do you say to the people who also prayed for their town not to get hit, but it got hit anyway?
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GaryK wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:00 pm
Valerie wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:34 am
temporal1 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:08 am Reading, Pa chocolate factory explosion
viewtopic.php?t=5569

Mississippi / Devastated meteorologist PRAYS on-air as tornado targets small Miss town; at least 25 dead in storms
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/03/26 ... s-1344303/
Saturday night Mom texted me that her best friend in Mississippi was threatened with tornado coming.
I texted her back "we need to agree together in prayer right now" which she agreed. I keep thinking with all these weather crisis state by state people need to be praying- and boldly asked God to show Himself to people through this-

Sunday morning mom texted me that her friends Town got missed. Her friends adult grandchild showed her the radar and said I don't understand what happened we were supposed to get hit. His grandma said "we know what happened" because she knew prayers were going up. Obviously not just ours.

People call this climate change & indeed weather is very tumultuous in areas- honestly I cannot dismiss God and all of this. But maybe I tend to see him and everything and he is sovereign over the weather too.

I remember when hurricane Ian that devastated Florida in the fall hit certain cities that he was on the path towards the Sarasota area. I do remember thinking there's a lot of praying people there! (Thinking about the Amish and Mennonite community for example) not only that there would have been a lot of family members and other Amish communities praying. As it turned out Ian missed that area even though it was expected.

I remember a friend at church calling to pray for a tsunami that was supposed to hit the West Coast several years ago, prayers were being offered in intercession & the tsunami didn't manifest.

Is God looking for us to "see Him" in our weather? There are many passages revealing HE is very Providential in our weather- I have thought through the years that global warming or climate change will be the focus over God being sovereign over the weather and I feel like in my heart of hearts that he is displaying something that is supposed to cause us to think about Him.
What do you say to the people who also prayed for their town not to get hit, but it got hit anyway?
Sudsy shared some of my thoughts on it. Basically if someone asked that question we just have to say that God is sovereign over His decisions. Isn't that true in all of life? He's either God or he is not. He's either sovereign over the affairs of man and over this world and universe or he's standing back letting things take their natural course. I don't see him doing that. I see him waiting to see if we will put our trust in him in prayer Jesus calm the storm, Jesus told us to pray, Jesus made it clear that he looks for faith, so Hos ways are not our ways, we accept His Providence. Are you suggesting or thinking that we shouldn't pray? And if something is expected to happen and a storm changes its course that God had nothing to do with it? Or just how do you answer. I think usually people that are prayer warriors realize that ultimately God is sovereign and if he says no he has His reasons, His will.
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Valerie wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:01 pm
GaryK wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:00 pm
Valerie wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:34 am

Saturday night Mom texted me that her best friend in Mississippi was threatened with tornado coming.
I texted her back "we need to agree together in prayer right now" which she agreed. I keep thinking with all these weather crisis state by state people need to be praying- and boldly asked God to show Himself to people through this-

Sunday morning mom texted me that her friends Town got missed. Her friends adult grandchild showed her the radar and said I don't understand what happened we were supposed to get hit. His grandma said "we know what happened" because she knew prayers were going up. Obviously not just ours.

People call this climate change & indeed weather is very tumultuous in areas- honestly I cannot dismiss God and all of this. But maybe I tend to see him and everything and he is sovereign over the weather too.

I remember when hurricane Ian that devastated Florida in the fall hit certain cities that he was on the path towards the Sarasota area. I do remember thinking there's a lot of praying people there! (Thinking about the Amish and Mennonite community for example) not only that there would have been a lot of family members and other Amish communities praying. As it turned out Ian missed that area even though it was expected.

I remember a friend at church calling to pray for a tsunami that was supposed to hit the West Coast several years ago, prayers were being offered in intercession & the tsunami didn't manifest.

Is God looking for us to "see Him" in our weather? There are many passages revealing HE is very Providential in our weather- I have thought through the years that global warming or climate change will be the focus over God being sovereign over the weather and I feel like in my heart of hearts that he is displaying something that is supposed to cause us to think about Him.
What do you say to the people who also prayed for their town not to get hit, but it got hit anyway?
Sudsy shared some of my thoughts on it. Basically if someone asked that question we just have to say that God is sovereign over His decisions. Isn't that true in all of life? He's either God or he is not. He's either sovereign over the affairs of man and over this world and universe or he's standing back letting things take their natural course. I don't see him doing that. I see him waiting to see if we will put our trust in him in prayer Jesus calm the storm, Jesus told us to pray, Jesus made it clear that he looks for faith, so Hos ways are not our ways, we accept His Providence. Are you suggesting or thinking that we shouldn't pray? And if something is expected to happen and a storm changes its course that God had nothing to do with it? Or just how do you answer. I think usually people that are prayer warriors realize that ultimately God is sovereign and if he says no he has His reasons, His will.
No, I'm not suggesting we don't pray in times of uncertainty. I just think it's important to remember, when publicly testifying about the goodness of God in sparing us from a storm or even an expected storm, that for those who also prayed but were not spared, it can raise a lot of questions about God and themselves.

I think it's also important to remember that nature itself was negatively affected by the fall of man, and while God can certainly intervene in natural disasters if He so chooses, we can't necessarily be certain, that just because someone or a group of people prayed and things turned out differently than expected, it was in fact God intervening.
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GaryK wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:29 pm
Valerie wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:01 pm
GaryK wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:00 pm
What do you say to the people who also prayed for their town not to get hit, but it got hit anyway?
Sudsy shared some of my thoughts on it. Basically if someone asked that question we just have to say that God is sovereign over His decisions. Isn't that true in all of life? He's either God or he is not. He's either sovereign over the affairs of man and over this world and universe or he's standing back letting things take their natural course. I don't see him doing that. I see him waiting to see if we will put our trust in him in prayer Jesus calm the storm, Jesus told us to pray, Jesus made it clear that he looks for faith, so Hos ways are not our ways, we accept His Providence. Are you suggesting or thinking that we shouldn't pray? And if something is expected to happen and a storm changes its course that God had nothing to do with it? Or just how do you answer. I think usually people that are prayer warriors realize that ultimately God is sovereign and if he says no he has His reasons, His will.
No, I'm not suggesting we don't pray in times of uncertainty. I just think it's important to remember, when publicly testifying about the goodness of God in sparing us from a storm or even an expected storm, that for those who also prayed but were not spared, it can raise a lot of questions about God and themselves.

I think it's also important to remember that nature itself was negatively affected by the fall of man, and while God can certainly intervene in natural disasters if He so chooses, we can't necessarily be certain, that just because someone or a group of people prayed and things turned out differently than expected, it was in fact God intervening.
I choose to give Him thanks and glory but not in such a public way that others will feel worse-, we pray without ceasing, we pray in faith & hope, we don't leave weather situations out because the world is growing old or because of the fall. Same with for example cancer. We pray and accept His will but i am hoping and praying people are considering God in all situations, bit i understand different points of view
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GaryK:
What do you say to the people who also prayed for their town not to get hit, but it got hit anyway?
GaryK wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:29 pm No, I'm not suggesting we don't pray in times of uncertainty. I just think it's important to remember, when publicly testifying about the goodness of God in sparing us from a storm or even an expected storm, that for those who also prayed but were not spared,
it can raise a lot of questions about God and themselves.

I think it's also important to remember that nature itself was negatively affected by the fall of man, and while God can certainly intervene in natural disasters if He so chooses, we can't necessarily be certain, that just because someone or a group of people prayed and things turned out differently than expected, it was in fact God intervening.
This is such an important distinction, without doubt, some wrestle-hard with these questions about God, and understandably so.
It can be a primary stumbling block to faith, again, understandably so. There are so many examples, not the least of which is loss of a beloved child. It’s agonizing. Some pain cuts so deep, it tests devout believers.

Years ago, on MD, there was a short discussion about this, i don’t recall who/details, but someone described “the Amish way” of submitting all things to God’s will, no matter how wanted, or hated. i just completely agree.

Scriptural examples demonstrate how this works out. Hosea, Lot, Boaz, others, all demonstrate how keeping God central is The Way, not predicated on having good fortune. God’s perfect will, not my own.

The Nickel Mines tragedy became a message of faith (in real time) in response to severe pain.
Without knowing details, i imagine different community members struggled in different ways, some may have been tested beyond description. That’s what happens. Faith is tested.

As God demonstrated to Gomer, He uses harsh tests for the purpose of drawing us closer to Him.
God loved Gomer and wanted her with Him. Gomer was stubborn! God prevails.

2 Peter 3:9
https://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-9.htm
8Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice:
With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

9The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance.

10But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare.…
(i don’t believe Valerie is far from this, if at all.) i appreciate emphasis of the distinction, which can seem small, but has the potential to make all the difference between believing+trusting, rather than frustration, rage, rejection.

i have witnessed first-hand the pain and havoc caused by this one “small” misunderstanding. it’s agony.
people can wrestle in self-made hell over this one distinction. it is powerful.
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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — After migrants in northern Mexico placed mattresses against the bars of their detention cell and set them on fire, guards quickly walked away and made no apparent attempt to release the men before smoke filled the room and killed 38 men, surveillance video showed Tuesday.

Hours after the fire broke out late Monday, rows of bodies were laid out under shimmery silver sheets outside the immigration detention facility in Ciudad Juarez, which is across the U.S. border from El Paso, Texas, and a major crossing point for migrants. .. ..
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