400 Years of African Slavery in America

[Humble Disciple]

We should also keep in mind that slavery, though horrifically wrong, is not a uniquely American problem. The Greeks, for example, were under the occupation of the Ottoman Turks for five hundred years, and were often taken as slaves.

[joshuabgood]

We should also keep in mind that slavery, though horrifically wrong, is not a uniquely American problem. The Greeks, for example, were under the occupation of the Ottoman Turks for five hundred years, and were often taken as slaves.

Race based slavery is nearly unique in the historical record. That is, pigment based slavery.

[Humble Disciple]

We should also keep in mind that slavery, though horrifically wrong, is not a uniquely American problem. The Greeks, for example, were under the occupation of the Ottoman Turks for five hundred years, and were often taken as slaves.

Race based slavery is nearly unique in the historical record. That is, pigment based slavery.

What do you mean?

[Josh]

We should also keep in mind that slavery, though horrifically wrong, is not a uniquely American problem. The Greeks, for example, were under the occupation of the Ottoman Turks for five hundred years, and were often taken as slaves.

Race based slavery is nearly unique in the historical record. That is, pigment based slavery.

Is this somehow worse than other forms of slavery?

[joshuabgood]

We should also keep in mind that slavery, though horrifically wrong, is not a uniquely American problem. The Greeks, for example, were under the occupation of the Ottoman Turks for five hundred years, and were often taken as slaves.

Race based slavery is nearly unique in the historical record. That is, pigment based slavery.

Is this somehow worse than other forms of slavery?

It brings some of its own singular complexities.

[Josh]

Race based slavery is nearly unique in the historical record. That is, pigment based slavery.

Is this somehow worse than other forms of slavery?

It brings some of its own singular complexities.

It seems slavery and mass relocations of people around the globe are the problems, not worrying about “pigment”.

[Ken]

We should also keep in mind that slavery, though horrifically wrong, is not a uniquely American problem. The Greeks, for example, were under the occupation of the Ottoman Turks for five hundred years, and were often taken as slaves.

Race based slavery is nearly unique in the historical record. That is, pigment based slavery.

Is this somehow worse than other forms of slavery?

Yes, slaves actually had considerably more rights in ancient Rome than they did in the antebellum south. When you make it racially-based it is more dehumanizing. There was a vast literature in the south about the inferiority of blacks that worked to justify their enslavement. And then served as the basis for 150 more years of discrimination and hate.

[PetrChelcicky]

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What if America understood, finally, in this 400th year, that we have never been the problem but the solution?

I think everyone who says "I am not a problem for you, but the solution" must have an over-inflated ego. Average grown-ups should be able to see that they often are a problem for others.

And yes, Blacks are often a problem for others. For instance, Black pupils who do not want to be educated are a problem for teachers, which will not disappear by more moneyspending (as recommended by Bootstrap). Read for that Robert Weissberg: "Bad students, not bad schools".

By the way, thanks for the people who pointed to my confusion between "cattle" and "chattel". I will not repeat it. (But is there an etymological connexion, like between "pecus" and "pecunia"?)

[Humble Disciple]

We should also keep in mind that there wouldn't have been an African slave trade without African slave traders. When slavery was abolished in Western countries like the United States, it crippled Africa's economy. Slavery, though a horrific wrong, was not a uniquely white sin.

If you look at the situation today, slavery is alive and well, especially sex slavery due to human trafficking.

[Josh]

Interestingly, Nikole Hannah-Jones has moved on to complaining that items she wants to buy in the store are locked up and she has to wait for an employee to come help unlock them.

Yet the reason this is so widespread is due to mass shoplifting which took off in 2020, resulting in many store closures, reduction in hours, and stores forced to lock up anything that can be easily fenced in California and NYC. NHJ promoted those riots as justified “protests”, yet now doesn’t like the consequences.

I would note that where I live, items aren’t locked up. We also don’t have much shoplifting and the police don’t have any tolerance for it either.