I'm a person that likes to think outside of the box... I don't automatically buy, "This is the way we've always done it." I want someone to defend why the way something is always done, is better than any alternatives.Bootstrap wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:31 amVery well considered.Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:44 am When our military clears houses in Iraq or Afghanistan, often the lead guy faces extreme risk of death due to being the first guy in. Making an effort to identify friend or foe before shooting increases the likelihood of getting shot.
Hypothetically, if they had an armored car, what would they have done with it? how would they have been able to serve the warrant?
Would they drive it into the house to begin with? start out with tear gas before even knowing if he would resist?
We would have sent in a drone which could have taken him out remotely but then the idea of using a drone for police enforcement has its own problems too.
Imagine this: I drive into Ernie's house with an armored vehicle. The person I encounter does not look at all like the suspect. Ooops. Or I cause great damage to the person's house, but in court, they are found innocent. Oooops ....
Do we want a police state? Do we want the police to look like a standing army that fights citizens here?
I am aware of the "excessive force" mentality, but it doesn't seem logical to me that officers need to serve warrants on foot.
So to brainstorm a bit...
Three armored vehicles could show up on the road and park in a way so that those in the first vehicle and those in the third vehicle would be able to see the back yard.
Then the middle one in front of the house could call for the criminal over a loud-speaker, and tell him to come around to the back side of the vehicle with his hands in the air to be arrested. Once he is arrested, the armored vehicles can drive away, the criminal is transferred to a police car, and it is finished. Society would just come to expect this.
Yes, there might be scenarios whenever officers need to be outside of the armored vehicle, in a helicopter, in the neighbors' yard, etc. but it doesn't seem logical to me for an officer to offer himself as low hanging fruit.