Ken wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:04 am
Did Iran launch a slow moving missile and drone attack that they knew would all get shot down, simply for show since they felt they had to retaliate for Israel's attack on their embassy? Knowing that that it would fail because they didn't really want to escalate into a bigger war and potentially draw in the US?
Or did they actually seek to do major damage inside Israel and this is the best that they could do?
According to a certain unnamed news source, Iran’s attack may have mostly been for show without trying to escalate the situation. The missiles were shot from Iran, instead of from one of Iran’s proxies in Israel’s neighbors, giving Israel plenty of warning to shoot them down. Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahia also claims he gave Israel’s neighbors, including US allies, 72 hours notice.
Why? Probably domestic politics. The Iranian economy is in shambles and there is discontent towards the regimes repressive policies. Iran had to show domestically that it was strong without escalating the conflict with Israel. A little bit of theater.
One of the dangers of Israel’s attack on the Iranian embassy is that it gives fodder to the hardliners that the Iranians need nuclear weapons. To me Netanyahu’s actions seem brash and dangerous.
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Of note is that Iran fired missiles into the Golan Heights at Israeli military installations. This is Syrian territory that Israel has had control of for many decades.
Israel and Iran have moved from once being firm allies to sworn enemies.
Here is a recap of their volatile relationship over the past half century.
Israel, following its creation in 1948, had close ties with Iran, which becomes the second Muslim country to recognize the Jewish state after Turkiye.
They become allies under the shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. At the time, Iran was home to the biggest Jewish community in the Middle East.
The new Jewish state imported 40 percent of its oil from Iran in exchange for weapons, technology and agricultural produce.
Israel’s Mossad spy agency helped train the shah’s feared Savak secret police.
The 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran toppled the shah, dramatically ending the friendship between the two states.
Israel did not recognize the new Islamic Republic.
The ayatollahs considered Israel illegal occupiers of Jerusalem. Informal commercial links remained in place, however.
Islamic Jihad became the first Islamist Palestinian organization to take up arms against Israel in 1980, with Iran as its main backer.
Nonetheless, Israel sent Tehran around 1,500 missiles to help it fight Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war that raged from 1980 to 1988.
Half of the missiles Iran fired at Israel failed on launch or malfunctioned and crashed, reports say.
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Israel praised the defense effort as a "significant strategic achievement." But around 60 of Iran's missiles failed on their own, according to several reports.
An estimated 50% of Iran's 120 ballistic missiles failed to launch or crashed in flight, unnamed US officials told CBS News and The Wall Street Journal.
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Speaking to CBS News, two US officials said five ballistic missiles made it through air defenses and impacted Israeli territory.
Four landed at Navatim Air Force Base, which was thought to be Iran's primary target. One hit a runway, one hit an empty hanger, and another hit a hanger that wasn't in use, the publication said. Meanwhile, another missile appeared to be aimed at a radar site in northern Israel but missed, the outlet added.
At the time of writing on Monday, one person — an unnamed 10-year-old girl — was reported as "severely injured" by shrapnel, the IDF confirmed. The details of her condition have not been released.
An organization affiliated with the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran revealed that Iranian General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, who was reportedly killed by an Israeli airstrike on April 1, played a key role in the mass murder of 1,200 people, including over 30 Americans, on October 7.
The U.S.-based Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) located the shocking admission and translated it into English. Iran’s Coalition Council of Islamic Revolution Forces published on April 3 a notice of mourning and recognition for the late Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commander, Zahedi.
Zahedi was the IRGC’s commander of its elite Quds Force in Syria and Lebanon and was killed along with six other men in Iran’s diplomatic compound in Damascus.
"The strategic role of the martyr Zahedi in consolidating and strengthening the resistance front, and in the planning and execution of Al-Aqsa Flood, are part of the great pride that will transform the quiet efforts of this great commander into the eternal history of the struggle against the occupation by the Zionist regime," declared the Iranian Coalition Council of Islamic Revolution Forces, according to the MEMRI translation.
The Al-Aqsa-Flood is the Hamas name for the October 7 invasion that resulted in mass rapes, deaths, and hostage-taking. There are currently over 100 hostages held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
When asked about the MEMRI report and Zahedi's role in the October 7 massacre, a U.S. State Department spokesperson told Fox News Digital that "IRGC Qods Force Brigadier General Mohamed Reza Zahedi was a significant leader of Iran’s effort, directly and through proxies, to threaten Israel. While we are unable to comment on the precise role he has played in the October 7 attack, there is no question that the IRGC Qods Force and people like Zahedi have long been involved in supporting threats to Israel and to U.S. interests, including the arming and funding of terrorist groups and militant proxies and partners that threaten Israel’s security and stability across the Middle East."
A spokesman for Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs told Fox News Digital that the "IRGC is the largest state-funded terror organization. It’s the main tool of the terror regime in Iran to export its policy in the ME and around the world. Israel calls on the international community to designate the IRGC as a terror organization."
The State Department echoed the views of Israel. According to the spokesperson, "The IRGC is absolutely a terrorist organization. That’s why we designated the IRGC and why we have encouraged other countries to take a similar step. The case is stronger today than it has ever been. Our views related to the IRGC are clear in the numerous actions we have undertaken to sanction them and their members, including since October 7. We continue to work with allies to identify sanctionable activities undertaken by Iranian government entities, including the IRGC."
RZehr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:06 am
An organization affiliated with the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran revealed that Iranian General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, who was reportedly killed by an Israeli airstrike on April 1, played a key role in the mass murder of 1,200 people, including over 30 Americans, on October 7.
Yes, there is absolutely no question that the Iranians are bad people and Iranian intelligence is involved in all manner of terrorism from Syria to Gaza to Yemen.
That said, what Israel actually did on April 1 is bomb the Iranian embassy or consulate in Damascus killing various top Iranian officers and diplomats. Embassies and consulates are universally considered sovereign territory which means that attacking an Iranian consulate is tantamount to bombing Iranian territory proper. There was no way that the Iranians could not respond. Legally what Israel did on April 1 is no different from actually dropping bombs on Tehran. Either way it was a direct act of war on the part of Israel.
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RZehr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:06 am
An organization affiliated with the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran revealed that Iranian General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, who was reportedly killed by an Israeli airstrike on April 1, played a key role in the mass murder of 1,200 people, including over 30 Americans, on October 7.
Yes, there is absolutely no question that the Iranians are bad people and Iranian intelligence is involved in all manner of terrorism from Syria to Gaza to Yemen.
That said, what Israel actually did on April 1 is bomb the Iranian embassy or consulate in Damascus killing various top Iranian officers and diplomats. Embassies and consulates are universally considered sovereign territory which means that attacking an Iranian consulate is tantamount to bombing Iranian territory proper. There was no way that the Iranians could not respond. Legally what Israel did on April 1 is no different from actually dropping bombs on Tehran. Either way it was a direct act of war on the part of Israel.
Has Israel offered any reason for this provocation?
My neighbour sometimes has a dispute with me about the property line. He thinks it’s a few feet over, in the middle of a patch of Japanese knotweed infestation I’m trying to get rid of.
This is the equivalent of me responding by bombing his son’s car.
RZehr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:06 am
An organization affiliated with the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran revealed that Iranian General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, who was reportedly killed by an Israeli airstrike on April 1, played a key role in the mass murder of 1,200 people, including over 30 Americans, on October 7.
Yes, there is absolutely no question that the Iranians are bad people and Iranian intelligence is involved in all manner of terrorism from Syria to Gaza to Yemen.
That said, what Israel actually did on April 1 is bomb the Iranian embassy or consulate in Damascus killing various top Iranian officers and diplomats. Embassies and consulates are universally considered sovereign territory which means that attacking an Iranian consulate is tantamount to bombing Iranian territory proper. There was no way that the Iranians could not respond. Legally what Israel did on April 1 is no different from actually dropping bombs on Tehran. Either way it was a direct act of war on the part of Israel.
Has Israel offered any reason for this provocation?
My neighbour sometimes has a dispute with me about the property line. He thinks it’s a few feet over, in the middle of a patch of Japanese knotweed infestation I’m trying to get rid of.
This is the equivalent of me responding by bombing his son’s car.
Add in the fact that your neighbor's son orchestrated an attack that killed one of your children and kidnapped another and you pretty much have it.
Yes, there is absolutely no question that the Iranians are bad people and Iranian intelligence is involved in all manner of terrorism from Syria to Gaza to Yemen.
That said, what Israel actually did on April 1 is bomb the Iranian embassy or consulate in Damascus killing various top Iranian officers and diplomats. Embassies and consulates are universally considered sovereign territory which means that attacking an Iranian consulate is tantamount to bombing Iranian territory proper. There was no way that the Iranians could not respond. Legally what Israel did on April 1 is no different from actually dropping bombs on Tehran. Either way it was a direct act of war on the part of Israel.
Has Israel offered any reason for this provocation?
My neighbour sometimes has a dispute with me about the property line. He thinks it’s a few feet over, in the middle of a patch of Japanese knotweed infestation I’m trying to get rid of.
This is the equivalent of me responding by bombing his son’s car.
Add in the fact that your neighbor's son orchestrated an attack that killed one of your children and kidnapped another and you pretty much have it.
The better analogy is that you bombed your neighbor's son's car with him in it because he was the gun dealer who provided the guns to the criminals who kidnapped and killed your children.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
