Sattler College Turmoil

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I don’t know, but it would only have to be a tiny percent to hit 100.
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Ken wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:38 pmMy point was about higher education in general, not Sattler in specific. What is the percentage of youth from the most conservative Mennonite groups who get 4-year college degrees?
Ultra-conservative Mennonites - 0%
Intermediate-conservative Mennonites - 1/2%
Moderate-conservative Mennonites - 1%
Progressive-conservative Mennonites - ???
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Ernie wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:45 pm
Ken wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:38 pmMy point was about higher education in general, not Sattler in specific. What is the percentage of youth from the most conservative Mennonite groups who get 4-year college degrees?
Ultra-conservative Mennonites - 0%
Intermediate-conservative Mennonites - 1/2%
Moderate-conservative Mennonites - 1%
Progressive-conservative Mennonites - ???
Right. So it isn't surprising that Sattler isn't getting very many of them. Plus, I would guess that that a portion of the above are going to college for very specific technical/professional skills like nursing, agronomy, accounting, etc. that Sattler doesn't offer.

So it seems very unsurprising that a majority of Menno students attending Sattler are from more liberal groups.
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Ernie wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:45 pm
Ken wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:38 pmMy point was about higher education in general, not Sattler in specific. What is the percentage of youth from the most conservative Mennonite groups who get 4-year college degrees?
Ultra-conservative Mennonites - 0%
Intermediate-conservative Mennonites - 1/2%
Moderate-conservative Mennonites - 1%
Progressive-conservative Mennonites - ???
My guess on the Progressives is 10-20%. Probably more like 10...
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joshuabgood wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:48 pm
Ernie wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:45 pm
Ken wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:38 pmMy point was about higher education in general, not Sattler in specific. What is the percentage of youth from the most conservative Mennonite groups who get 4-year college degrees?
Ultra-conservative Mennonites - 0%
Intermediate-conservative Mennonites - 1/2%
Moderate-conservative Mennonites - 1%
Progressive-conservative Mennonites - ???
My guess on the Progressives is 10-20%. Probably more like 10...
Charity-type (Non-ethnic Menno) Kingdom Anabaptists - more yet
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RZehr wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:41 pm I don’t know, but it would only have to be a tiny percent to hit 100.
Yeah but Sattler isn't a good fit for many. (No nursing program, music program, or school teaching program...so many who do go probably to another school that has those majors...)
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Dan Z wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:49 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:48 pm
Ernie wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:45 pm
Ultra-conservative Mennonites - 0%
Intermediate-conservative Mennonites - 1/2%
Moderate-conservative Mennonites - 1%
Progressive-conservative Mennonites - ???
My guess on the Progressives is 10-20%. Probably more like 10...
Charity-type Non-ethnic Kingdom Anabaptists - more yet
I think the key here is "non ethnic." Not many Charity types go if they are ethnically Anabaptists...probably again less than 10%. Folks who aren't ethnically Menno...are much more likely to have that liberal arts value.
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Seems like the reality is setting in. Trying to set up a classically liberal academic institutions leads to classically liberal results ie. progressivism. I always thought Finny was being incredibly naive in his longer term vision.
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Sliceitup wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:15 pm This explains some things. It has crossed my mind that the school seems very small, and yet is located, from what I understand, right in Boston, which seems like an expensive place to get real estate. And expensive lodging for students.
Perhaps it's time to revisit a prediction from 23 months ago today:
Josh wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:24 pm If my predictions hold true, it’ll be the next EMU. (EMU was started because Goshen was getting too liberal.)

EMU has plummeting enrolment and a budget crisis, and Harrisonburg isn’t exactly a place young, hip students are clamouring to go.

Sattler is in Boston in the middle of the city, which appeals to youth who want to go some place “fun”. It has backers with deep pockets and the excitement of a new school with climbing enrolment, along with promises to parents, donors, and church leaders that the school is very dedicated to being “conservative”.

With that said, I fully expect Sattler to end up like EMU is.
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I’ve heard Finny’s name before but never paid much attention. But just a general search tells me that he holds a lot of degrees, but none of them seem to be anything that would be helpful in running a financial management firm. Maybe computer science. Where did the money come from to get all these degrees?

Sorry if this is off topic, but I’m curious about this person who can single-handedly finance a college in what seems like a vanity project.
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