Poll: Freedom Convoy and Related Protests

[Robert]

Even as police threatened to break up the blockades and the prime minister, Trudeau, invoked the Emergencies Act, many protesters were unfazed, arguing police didn’t have the authority to break up the protests.

According to the Canadian Charter of Rights, they do not. By enacting the Emergencies Act, they can declare Marshall Law and ignore their rights.

Still, even as police swarmed the area on Friday, many protesters expressed disbelief that arrests were possible.
“You can’t do this. You can’t do this. You have no right,”

I think we will find they were right. Canadian Citizens have the right to protest. What was illegal was parking long term on the streets. This is a minor offense. A parking ticket. They had no legal right to arrest the protestors without removing their rights.

A number of police forces, including the Ottawa city police, the Ontario provincial police, the Royal Canadian Mounted police and the Sûreté du Québec, participated in the operation to clear the streets.

It was easy to see military support behind the lines of Police. This is sad that they are using force to end the protest instead of sitting down and talking.

“They honestly believe that all of Canada supports them. And so it’s shocking to them to learn they aren’t seen as heroes,” said Carmen Celestini, a postdoctoral fellow with the Disinformation Project at Simon Fraser University, adding that many believed police officers were on their side.

“And now they’ve realized that’s not true.”

This is his opinion. He is welcome to it, but hours of Viva Frei interviews will tell a different story of the thoughts of the protesters. I would rather go by their own words then some think tank person.

“But even though they told supporters to ‘hold the line’, they really didn’t have a plan for what to do when arrests occurred. The leaders knew that they would have an escape plan and that they’d be OK. But their decision to leaving their supporters out there to face the consequences helps you see their character.”

Being that all the leaders of the Freedom Convoy were arrested and have not been heard of since makes this statement incorrect. They have seized over 70 bank accounts also. It is quite scary the power they are exerting on a group of people who disagrees with the government. I hope the Canadian Anabaptists are not treated this way when it comes time to being forced to accept homosexuality, and other alternative lifestyles.

I would say the Truckers were surprised that the Emergencies Act was used and the Police came down so hard. I also think many in Parliament were just as shocked. I could hear it in many of the speeches given. Using the Emergencies Act is using a sledgehammer to remove a screw. The screw is removed, along with a lot of the wood it was in.

All this could have been sorted out with a few meetings. Mos the Providences have already agreed to most of what the Truckers were demanding. They already won. Trudeau is just trying to save face, but with all the protests breaking out across Canada, I think he has done the opposite.

[temporal1]

i’m not sure when diplomacy was abandoned for brute force, but it’s been some years.
it’s NOT employed even-handedly, by any means. it’s specific.

people are noticing.

[temporal1]

i’m not sure when diplomacy was abandoned for brute force, but it’s been some years.
it’s NOT employed even-handedly, by any means. it’s specific.

people are noticing.

Trudeau ignored province leaders, too. Jason Kenney is well spoken and orderly. i expect other province leaders are, too.

Some have seen through the charade all along, some for years, it’s not “polite” rejection of the “ghastly.”
It’s domination - no matter what. No matter how.

The more comfortable they become in their own power, the less patience for annoying archaic things, like diplomacy.
It becomes, “Diplomacy is for losers.”

i saw it in Illinois, 2014-2018. It’s spread. Chicago-style gangsters in the highest offices, appointing minions everywhere.
SA cartels. These people do do “respect” national borders.

i’m so sorry to say.

[appleman2006]

When the court injunction against horn blowing came in almost all horns immediately stopped.

Appleman, I'm curious how you feel about the truckers that are still remaining in Ottawa, and their decision to blow their horns again yesterday despite the court order.

Sorry I only saw this now. There was very little horn blowing up until the end of the injunction. The injunction was only for ten days. Even after that I think to a large extent the really loud rrain horns were rarely used. As I said before. My advice to them would have been to voluntarily withdraw after 3 weeks but all things considered this still ranks as perhaps the most peaceful and in many ways respectful large protest I have ever seen.
It was also one of the most diverse as far as the makeup of it’s participants was concerned.
What makes this whole so strange is the PM hypocrisy in the whole thing. For example some years ago when India was undergoing it’s almost year long “farmer’” protest (hat included violence Trudeau openly supported the protest. He stated that the government should be negotiate with the protesters and critized them that 5he6 were not do8n* enough even though they had many man6 actual meetings with the protesters. He encourage people to suppot the protest financially but now is threatening anyone that finaciallly supported this one.
I will still pray for my PM. But I am not sure I can ever respect him or take him seriously again.

[Signtist]

People got to know Jesus at this protest! That's pretty great, any way you cut it. HUNDREDS of Bibles got passed out.

[Ernie]

What makes this whole so strange is the PM hypocrisy in the whole thing. For example some years ago when India was undergoing it’s almost year long “farmer’” protest (hat included violence Trudeau openly supported the protest. He stated that the government should be negotiate with the protesters and critized them that 5he6 were not do8n* enough even though they had many man6 actual meetings with the protesters. He encourage people to suppot the protest financially but now is threatening anyone that finaciallly supported this one.
I will still pray for my PM. But I am not sure I can ever respect him or take him seriously again.

I certainly will not stand behind or support Trudeau or anything he did or does.

My concern has to do with the hypocrisy of Christians who supported people who travelled to another city, ruined some residents' businesses for awhile, cost many residents a fair bit of income, and blasted their ear-piercing horns repeatedly whenever they were ordered not to do so. Somehow this is all is supposedly ok because they helped make some other businesses prosper, helped reduce crime in the city, etc., etc. There were plenty of legal places in Ottawa where they could have protested that would not have created hardship for others. Had they done so, I'm quite sure they would not have been driven out of the city and could still be protesting there today.

Two wrongs will never make one right, no matter how long the world stands. Jesus clearly calls Christians to separate themselves from all such evils, whether from the liberal left or the religious right. Jesus did not support or praise the Sadducees because they somehow neutralized the goals of the Pharisees, or vice versa.

In the western way of thinking, one person is guilty and the other innocent. One entity is guilty and the other innocent. In God's justice system, all sin, bad behavior, hypocrisy is judged, no matter what good may result from it. If it wasn't this way, we could give the Jews who crucified Jesus a pass because of all the good that came from Jesus' death and subsequent resurrection.

[Soloist]

Two wrongs will never make one right, no matter how long the world stands. Jesus clearly calls Christians to separate themselves from all such evils, whether from the liberal left or the religious right. Jesus did not support or praise the Sadducees because they somehow neutralized the goals of the Pharisees, or vice versa.

In the western way of thinking, one person is guilty and the other innocent. One entity is guilty and the other innocent. In God's justice system, all sin, bad behavior, hypocrisy is judged, no matter what good may result from it. If it wasn't this way, we could give the Jews who crucified Jesus a pass because of all the good that came from Jesus' death and subsequent resurrection.

I'm pleased to hear you say this. Would you be willing to use your platform to speak out against the evil of fetal cell research, medication and vaccines?

[Ernie]

I'm pleased to hear you say this. Would you be willing to use your platform to speak out against the evil of fetal cell research, medication and vaccines?

Yes.

[Soloist]

I'm pleased to hear you say this. Would you be willing to use your platform to speak out against the evil of fetal cell research, medication and vaccines?

Yes.

At what point will the truth be spoken about? or is this something you believe you have already done?

[Ernie]

I'm pleased to hear you say this. Would you be willing to use your platform to speak out against the evil of fetal cell research, medication and vaccines?

Yes.

At what point will the truth be spoken about? or is this something you believe you have already done?

I have done so numerous times on MN. I do so in personal conversations when I have the opportunity.