The new religion

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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The new religion

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As people turn away from God and embrace false, state-sponsored religions, one of the most bizarre that I could ever imagine has emerged; one that basically involves the worship of unproven "medical" treatments.

In this new religion:

#1. Much as Mennonites wear head coverings, one must wear face coverings in order to show one's submission to the new religion. Appearing in public without one is not allowed, except...

#2. Much as the Christian seek salvation and baptism, one is inducted into this religion by yielding to a vaccination. (And much as some Christian denominations used to, when they forced infants to be baptised, this one is also being mandated by force.) Adherents to this religion get vaccinated. Heretics and blasphemers refuse the vaccines.

#3. Much as Christians seek communion, one must continually submit to boosters shots in order to stay in good standing in this religion.

#4. The high priests and priestesses of this religion consist of "scientists" and "public health experts" are to be revered as something almost akin to gods, who can say or do no wrong; disagreeing with them is "doubting the science" and, at this point, could even land you on a terrorist watch list. It is akin to blasphemy.

#5. A "holy war" or "crusade" is well on its way to being conducted against who might doubt the priests and priestesses or doubt the "sacraments" of vaccines, face masks, and booster shots.

The real question is which god and which religion people who claim they are Christians serve. You cannot serve two gods. Either salvation is found in Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone, or it is also found in new, experimental vaccines. But not both.
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Most of us don’t actually see a clash between faith and modern medicine. Whether the subject is cancer, heart disease, diabetes, or Covid. Do you get as wrapped around the axle about things like new chemotherapy drugs for cancer or artificial heart valves as you do with the Covid vaccine?
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Maybe the new religion is the religion that cares so much about every right-wing talking point, with religious fervor, making everything a religious issue, insisting that anyone who disagrees is abandoning the faith. That feels like radicalization to me. It changes what our faith is about.

Maybe the old religion is what Jesus said and did. Maybe we should talk more about that and less about the daily outrage.
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In many respects this new religion is similar to communism. Communism also had its required rituals, priesthood, and holy war. They are already erecting an iron curtain so that they can prevent dissidents from escaping so that they can send all dissidents to gulags. But this new religion is more global than communism was. The Mennonite area in north Mexico is the only place that I know of that is free from the oppression of this new religion.
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Ken wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:26 pm Most of us don’t actually see a clash between faith and modern medicine. Whether the subject is cancer, heart disease, diabetes, or Covid. Do you get as wrapped around the axle about things like new chemotherapy drugs for cancer or artificial heart valves as you do with the Covid vaccine?
Am I required to get chemotherapy or artificial heart valves in order to have a job? Particularly if I don’t have cancer or heart disease?
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Most of the country just gets the vaccine like they do for polio, MMR, DTap, HepB, etc. and moves on with their lives. It seems to me that it is only the anti-Vax crowd and fanatical anti-mask crazies who are turning this into a new religion.
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Ken wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:23 pm Most of the country just gets the vaccine like they do for polio, MMR, DTap, HepB, etc. and moves on with their lives. It seems to me that it is only the anti-Vax crowd and fanatical anti-mask crazies who are turning this into a new religion.
I’ve never been required to get those vaccines in order to have a job.

And none of those vaccines are experimental, and they’ve been FDA approved for decades.

Your crowd is the one who wants to use force and coercion. My crowd would mostly like to just be left alone - and if the vaccines work, you have nothing at all to fear from an unvaccinated or unmasked person.
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Ken wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:26 pm Most of us don’t actually see a clash between faith and modern medicine. Whether the subject is cancer, heart disease, diabetes, or Covid. Do you get as wrapped around the axle about things like new chemotherapy drugs for cancer or artificial heart valves as you do with the Covid vaccine?
When you say "most of us", who are you talking about? To be frank, anyone who doesn't see a clash between faith and modern medicine is blind.
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nett wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:28 am
Ken wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:26 pm Most of us don’t actually see a clash between faith and modern medicine. Whether the subject is cancer, heart disease, diabetes, or Covid. Do you get as wrapped around the axle about things like new chemotherapy drugs for cancer or artificial heart valves as you do with the Covid vaccine?
When you say "most of us", who are you talking about? To be frank, anyone who doesn't see a clash between faith and modern medicine is blind.
Most Christians, most Mennonites, and most Americans.
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Ken wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:32 am
nett wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:28 am
Ken wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:26 pm Most of us don’t actually see a clash between faith and modern medicine. Whether the subject is cancer, heart disease, diabetes, or Covid. Do you get as wrapped around the axle about things like new chemotherapy drugs for cancer or artificial heart valves as you do with the Covid vaccine?
When you say "most of us", who are you talking about? To be frank, anyone who doesn't see a clash between faith and modern medicine is blind.
Most Christians, most Mennonites, and most Americans.
Appeal to the majority is not a great argument for people who believe the Bible.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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