The CAM scandal links and assorted other topics thread

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Dan Z wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:17 pm Here’s my less verbatim translation:

“These three white guys are giving food and money to criminals for them to purchase guns to terrorize the population. We’re asking everyone to demand action, calling on the Haitian authorities to pass judgement as quickly as possible in this situation, or else the people will take matters into their own hands.

PS: CAM is the organization where these three foreigners work. CAM itself can decide what to do here.”

The message comes from a Facebook page that seems to have taken issue particularly with a CAM leader in Haiti named Barry Grant - accusing him of all manner of corruption and past wrongs, including cooperation with Haitian gangs. It Would appear to me like there is a personal grievance of some kind behind all of this. Judging from the page’s friend list, I doubt it is a widespread movement of any sort.
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I checked into this and CAM leadership investigated the matter some months ago.
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Ernie wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:18 pm I checked into this and CAM leadership investigated the matter some months ago.
And... unfounded?
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It is a very different story than what is published on Facebook.

CAM staff decided to try to help some folks who were part of local gangs by employing them in worthwhile labor, try to help them become an asset in their community by turning from robbery and violence, and teach them the way of Jesus. CAM offers the same work programs for non-gang members as well. In a culture where unemployment is very high, giving these men jobs naturally led to some resentment.

The alternative is to only hire people that a few influential men approve of. If the staff did so, they would give these few influential men more power to manipulate and intimidate the local population.
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Ernie wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:56 am It is a very different story than what is published on Facebook.

It wouldn't be on Facebook unless its true!! :D

Seriously, so what you're saying is this was a smear tactic against CAM?
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Ernie wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:56 am It is a very different story than what is published on Facebook.

CAM staff decided to try to help some folks who were part of local gangs by employing them in worthwhile labor, try to help them become an asset in their community by turning from robbery and violence, and teach them the way of Jesus. CAM offers the same work programs for non-gang members as well. In a culture where unemployment is very high, giving these men jobs naturally led to some resentment.

The alternative is to only hire people that a few influential men approve of. If the staff did so, they would give these few influential men more power to manipulate and intimidate the local population.
Having lived in Haiti, this make perfect sense to me Ernie.
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