Re: Global Warning/Climate Change
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:29 pm
Bootstrap wrote:Christy has no problem publishing his data, even though his group's results are often quite different from other scientists looking at the same data. But scientists just can't agree on what atmospheric temperature is according to satellite data, which is why surface data is generally considered more reliable.
The issue is more complex than that. The disagreement over satellite data is not in regards to what the temperature is - that does not matter when one is measuring the change in temperature, the disagreement is over the fact that satellite measurements show little or no increase in atmospheric temperature in comparison with surface temperature measurements. Every individual surface temperature station has to have corrections applied over time, because local conditions change. The bias of these adjustments in favor of global warming (an old friend who was working for NOAA brought it to my attention) is what turned the tide for me and made me begin to doubt the "science" of global warming.
.Its great to have scientists like Christy and others hashing out their data, publishing papers that disagree with each other and trying to come to common ways of understanding the data. We don't need politicians like Donald Trump putting their thumbs on the scale. There's been some progress on that, but so far, scientists still don't agree on how to interpret this data
I honestly think the current administration is trying to remove some thumbs from the scale.
Ground temperature is considered more reliable.
By those whose support the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. Logically it makes little sense to rely on mechanical thermometers that are not evenly distributed across the globe as a measurement of global temperature.
Given the distribution of measuring instruments one can best conclude that the United States, and urban centers of Africa, the pacific rim and Western Europe have warmed..
Using that sort of derogatory language demonstrates your political/philosophical bias. It's why I really can't be bothered toi debate science and facts with you on this topic any longer. And why should you even respond to me if I'm just a denier after all.The University of Alabama at Huntsville (UAH) team is a favorite of the denier camp...