Supreme Court Overturns Roe v. Wade

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Ken wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:57 pm Again, there is no evidence for this assertion. You are referencing the report of abuse that was made by the doctor in Indiana in which the doctor erroneously estimated the age of the rapist as 17. Which is the exact same report that a couple posts upstream you falsely claimed that the doctor never made.

But this report by the doctor in Indiana happened two weeks after the rape was reported to social services and the police in Ohio and there is no evidence that the mother misreported it to Ohio authorities. And there is no evidence that the Ohio police were not investigating because they thought that the rapist was underage. It did apparently take them a while to investigate, but there is no evidence this was due to the age of the rapist. And, in any event, the rape of a 10 year old by a 17 year old is clearly a felony crime in Ohio under Ohio's statutory rape laws. Under Ohio law, any sexual contact with a minor under the age of 13 is considered statutory rape. If the age difference is less than 4 years then it is a misdemeanor, and if it is more than 4 years it is a felony. So even if the rapist was actually age 17 this would still have been a felony rape case regardless of the circumstances since it would be a 7 year age difference.

Perhaps the rape of 10 year old Hispanic girls is not of pressing importance to the police in Columbus and that is why it took them so long to investigate. Perhaps it took this case breaking into the national news to light a fire under them and get them to do their jobs. That is a more plausible narrative frankly. We don't actually know because they aren't saying.
I have first hand experience with these types of cases in Ohio, and you have no idea what you're talking about. Abortion providers work with mothers in these cases to make sure that the mother's home situation is not disrupted.

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Ken,

Did you watch the Telemundo interview?
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What next? :-|

YouTube to remove videos spreading abortion falsehoods
https://www.aol.com/finance/youtube-rem ... 11221.html
.. Earlier this month, Google announced it will automatically purge information about users who visit abortion clinics or other places that could trigger legal problems in light of the Supreme Court's court’s ruling.

But some members of Congress have been pushing Google to limit the appearance of anti-abortion pregnancy centers
in the results of its influential search engine — a step that 17 Republican attorneys general on Thursday warned would expose the company to potential legal repercussions. ..

Crisis pregnancy centers are now labeled “anti-abortion” centers, with damning rhetoric, and, now measures like this, with promises of worse to come. Elizabeth Warren is a leader in this horror against the many who have dedicated their lives to helping pregnant women, teens, children. Listening+watching her speak is repugnant. Ghoulish.

i thought what we witnessed against DJT was outrageous. It appears there really is no bottom to their pit.

Found in comments:
Don't you love that big tech thinks it is the arbiter of truth.


Job 1 = Stop voting for it. Please.
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Awaken with JP / “We Want You ANGRY! - Roe v Wade Overturned” / 10min before ads


He touches on several pertinent points, to paraphrase one:
⚖️ Constitutional right: “i’m angry.” 🎯 :-|
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temporal1 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:54 pm Awaken with JP / “We Want You ANGRY! - Roe v Wade Overturned” / 10min before ads


He touches on several pertinent points, to paraphrase one:
⚖️ Constitutional right: “i’m angry.” 🎯 :-|
Our nice little town has had the angry mob protesting with their freaky outfits, signs, SHOUTING "Mt body my choice" in a chant type way. They love to show yp at events on our town square like our weekly farmers market or lime out Art in the Park which people should enjoy without that evil chanting.

A Christian couple was on opposite Corner holding signs, & one of the death culture group ran over & kept holding their abortion sign in front of the Christian man's sign to block it. We are not usually at our town square but after witnessing this, yes they are encouraged to stir up anger. Also an activist was strolling around signing up people to register to vote. So yes this mob would be the anti Trumpets, the Christian Couple appreciated the pro- life Trump
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Valerie wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:18 pm
temporal1 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:54 pm Awaken with JP / “We Want You ANGRY! - Roe v Wade Overturned” / 10min before ads
https://m.youtube
He touches on several pertinent points, to paraphrase one:
⚖️ Constitutional right: “i’m angry.” 🎯 :-|
Our nice little town has had the angry mob protesting with their freaky outfits, signs, SHOUTING "Mt body my choice" in a chant type way. They love to show yp at events on our town square like our weekly farmers market or lime out Art in the Park which people should enjoy without that evil chanting.

A Christian couple was on opposite Corner holding signs, & one of the death culture group ran over & kept holding their abortion sign in front of the Christian man's sign to block it. We are not usually at our town square

but after witnessing this, yes they are encouraged to stir up anger.
Also an activist was strolling around signing up people to register to vote.

So yes this mob would be the anti Trumpets, the Christian Couple appreciated the pro- life Trump
Not to be ignored, this behavior is promoted in the White House and Congress, in gov schools, there are for-credit college courses+disciplines teaching it.

The power+influence they have via taxpayer dollars in gov schools is priceless. Money could not buy this sort of marketing.
Not even Madison Avenue. They count on everyone ignoring it, piracy of public funds for bullying partisan politics.

It’s not just some odd crackpots, or outliers. They organize for political protections+power, access to the public treasury.
They’re organized and not playing around, no matter what low outward tactics/display they employ.

They are determined to exploit this SCOTUS ruling for VOTES. Exploit to the max. No shame.
(Of course, expecting shame from those eager to destroy human life for profit doesn’t make sense, either.)
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Think about it. 🌞

Georgia residents can now claim embryos as dependents on state taxes**
Taxpayers who have "an unborn child (or children) with a detectable human heartbeat" as of July 20 can get $3,000 for each unborn child.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ge ... -rcna41111


Texas / Pregnant woman says her fetus should count as a passenger in HOV lanes. She got a ticket
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdo ... -a-ticket/

Texas / Pregnant woman given HOV ticket argues fetus is passenger, post-Roe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... v-bottone/

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**Questions for Josh regarding IVF embryos.

Will A Roe v. Wade Overturn Impact Fertility Treatments? Here’s What Experts Say
https://www.forbes.com/health/family/ro ... treatment/
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I’m not sure what the question about IVF is, but permanently placing some of your children in a freezer seems immoral to me.
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Looks like Kansas will continue to permit abortions for now.

https://apple.news/AvXR46dvNQ5agM2hYQfoBYw
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. — In a major victory for abortion rights, Kansas voters on Tuesday rejected an effort to strip away their state’s abortion protections, sending a decisive message about the issue’s popularity in the first political test since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.

The overwhelming support for abortion rights in a traditionally conservative state bolsters Democrats’ hopes that the historic Supreme Court ruling will animate their voters in an otherwise difficult election year for their party. The Kansas vote signals that abortion is an energizing issue that could affect turnout in the November midterm elections.

The question presented to voters here was whether abortion should remain protected under the state constitution. A “yes” vote would allow Kansas’s Republican-led legislature to pass future limits on abortion — or ban it altogether — in its coming session in January. A “no” vote would leave those protections in place.

With 86 percent of the vote counted, 62 percent of voters wanted to maintain those abortion protections compared with 37 percent who wanted to remove them from the state constitution. Kansas Secretary of State Scott Schwab predicted that turnout for Tuesday’s primary election would exceed other contests in recent years, and possibly match that of the 2008 presidential election, when around 50 percent of the eligible voters cast ballots.
As voters went to the polls, The Washington Post reported that a Republican-backed group had sent voters intentionally misleading text messages about the ballot language. A political action committee led by Tim Huelskamp, a former hard-line Republican congressman from Kansas, paid a technology company to blast out texts that said, “Voting YES on the Amendment will give women a choice. Vote YES to protect women’s health.”
Voting “yes” actually would have removed abortion protections from the state constitution.
Proponents of abortion rights say that the Republican legislature has stacked the deck in its favor, passing tighter restrictions that have made it harder to register new voters, choosing to hold the vote on a primary day rather than during the general election and selecting a ballot question with convoluted wording that has confused many voters.
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Josh wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:12 pm I’m not sure what the question about IVF is, but permanently placing some of your children in a freezer seems immoral to me.
Georgia residents can now claim embryos as dependents on their state taxes, the state's Revenue Department announced Monday.

"In light of the June 24, 2022, U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization and the July 20, 2022, 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling in Sistersong v. Kemp, the Department will recognize any unborn child with a detectable human heartbeat ... as eligible for the Georgia individual income tax dependent exemption," the department said in a statement.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last month that "Georgia’s prohibition on abortions after detectable human heartbeat is rational."

The state's Living Infants and Fairness Equality Act "defines a 'natural person' as 'any human being including an un-born child,'"
the court ruled. .. ..
i believe this measure officially observes the humanity, or personhood, of the unborn. a major change.
i’m wondering if i may live to witness human life valued as much as animal life? i’m beginning to think it could happen.

it’s past time for increased thoughtfulness about the silent and unrepresented.
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