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temporal1 wrote:

PetrChelcicky wrote:I don' think that affiliations will change by such debates. But doggedly affiliations are more like doggedly friendships, and why should they change?

On the other hand I think that standpoints are really modified by such debates.

We learn to see that our standpoint had some hidden "presuppositions" or "implications".
Like we say something but imply a qualification of our words which we didn't see and express beforehand. Or we see a hidden principle which leads our reasoning and which only now we try to express.
But these presupposed qualifications and principles will stay in our mind now and have an influence on our farther cognitive development.

Say not the struggle not availeth ...

PetrC, this resonates!
This morning i’m thinking of a new thread, really asking for help with writing skills.
i’m having trouble.
(i hope it’s ok, i now plan to use this post as part of the beginning.)

the poem! i found it and plan to study it. lovely.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/ ... t-availeth

what a great way to begin a new day. thank you for being you.

Say not the Struggle nought Availeth
BY ARTHUR HUGH CLOUGH

Say not the struggle nought availeth,
The labour and the wounds are vain,
The enemy faints not, nor faileth,
And as things have been they remain.

If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;
It may be, in yon smoke concealed,
Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers,
And, but for you, possess the field.

For while the tired waves, vainly breaking
Seem here no painful inch to gain,
Far back through creeks and inlets making,
Comes silent, flooding in, the main.

And not by eastern windows only,
When daylight comes, comes in the light,
In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly,
But westward, look, the land is bright.

steve-in-kville wrote:Best advice I ever got was to set aside time every day and write something. Even if its absolute trash. Because, you edit trash, but your can't edit a blank piece of paper!

temporal1 wrote:This week, i’ve had a couple of writing failures “come to light.”
i want to improve my writing skills.

There have been threads on pronouns, and some specific parts of writing.
There has been amusement in “I think it is funny.”

This can be about general writing, grammar, punctuation, style, word usage, et al.
If interested, this can be a Q&A thread for general writing skills questions.

(i hope it’s ok to put this in “Written Word.”) ??
it’s not specific to Anabaptist theology. i’m depending on mods to decide.

Szdfan wrote:

temporal1 wrote:This week, i’ve had a couple of writing failures “come to light.”
i want to improve my writing skills.

There have been threads on pronouns, and some specific parts of writing.
There has been amusement in “I think it is funny.”

This can be about general writing, grammar, punctuation, style, word usage, et al.
If interested, this can be a Q&A thread for general writing skills questions.

(i hope it’s ok to put this in “Written Word.”) ??
it’s not specific to Anabaptist theology. i’m depending on mods to decide.

So what you’re wanting to accomplish with your writing? What are your writing goals?

So I didn’t mean this as a criticism or attack, just feedback. I often find your posts on MN difficult to follow, because it tends to be stream-of-conscious and doesn’t follow a logical paragraph or sentence structure, but jumps around from thought to thought. That’s not necessarily wrong, but it does make it harder to communicate, since I have to work harder as your reader to understand you.

ohio jones wrote:Posts are hard to read
When they're oddly formatted;
Please use paragraphs

Poetry is the exception, but there are conventions in that genre as well, such as the haiku above. When I encounter formatting (or capitalization or punctuation that's outside the norm, my brain tries to reorganize it into a pattern I expect to see. That unconscious effort sometimes causes me to lose sight of the meaning.

As an example, was anyone distracted by searching for the missing parenthesis in the previous paragraph?