Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account

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Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account

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Matthew 12:36-37 says:
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

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RZehr wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:10 am Matthew 12:36-37 says:
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

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Is Jesus using hyperbole here and what are your thoughts on what makes for 'idle words' ?
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Sudsy wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:37 am Is Jesus using hyperbole here and what are your thoughts on what makes for 'idle words' ?
I’m not talking about hyperbole or idle words, but rather giving account for every word.

I’m fascinated by the fact that every radio program ever broadcast, is still out there on the radio waves, and you could conceivably pick them up.

What about the sound waves of every word we speak? Where do they go?
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RZehr wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:42 am I’m not talking about hyperbole or idle words, but rather giving account for every word.

I’m fascinated by the fact that every radio program ever broadcast, is still out there on the radio waves, and you could conceivably pick them up.

What about the sound waves of every word we speak? Where do they go?
It’s humbling and encouraging how often science proves scriptures, esp when “what scriptures say” is hard/impossible to grasp.
This a prime example of “He knows” and we do not. Jesus calls for our faith, regardless of certainty. Jesus is the only certainty.

wrt words, these things were written long before contemporary tech, radio/TV.
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RZehr wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:42 am
Sudsy wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:37 am Is Jesus using hyperbole here and what are your thoughts on what makes for 'idle words' ?
I’m not talking about hyperbole or idle words, but rather giving account for every word.

I’m fascinated by the fact that every radio program ever broadcast, is still out there on the radio waves, and you could conceivably pick them up.

What about the sound waves of every word we speak? Where do they go?
Sorry, I have no thoughts on where our words may technically go over sound waves.

What I do know is that upon repentance God puts our sins in the sea of His forgetfulness never to be brought up again. I believe Jesus is speaking about slanderous words here that the Pharisees were making and verse 31 says every sin will be forgiven except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. And that is another topic also to what it means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
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I’m hoping that someone smart will watch that Carl Sagan video link, and tell me in 5 year old language how the physics of radio and sound waves are same/similar/different in terms of still existing in the future.

According to the video, radio and television broadcasts go on and on. As such those voices being broadcast on these radio waves go on and on.

But does a spoken word, that isn’t broadcast on a radio wave, do the same thing?
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RZehr wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:48 pm I’m hoping that someone smart will watch that Carl Sagan video link, and tell me in 5 year old language how the physics of radio and sound waves are same/similar/different in terms of still existing in the future.

According to the video, radio and television broadcasts go on and on. As such those voices being broadcast on these radio waves go on and on.

But does a spoken word, that isn’t broadcast on a radio wave, do the same thing?
No… the words you speak are transmitted by vibrating matter, mainly air and once it reaches the vacuum of space sound can go no further.

But… the vibrations in the air will vibrate the walls a little bit, which will vibrate the ground, all the way through the earth and so on, continuing to have an effect forever until the heat death of the universe, though they’d be almost impossible to reconstruct.

For that matter… the matter your sound waves move will cause (extremely minute) gravity waves to ripple out into the universe. So in a sense, yes, every word you’ve ever spoken is still “out there” somewhere.
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RZehr wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:48 pm I’m hoping that someone smart will watch that Carl Sagan video link, and tell me in 5 year old language how the physics of radio and sound waves are same/similar/different in terms of still existing in the future.

According to the video, radio and television broadcasts go on and on. As such those voices being broadcast on these radio waves go on and on.

But does a spoken word, that isn’t broadcast on a radio wave, do the same thing?
i’m not smart, but i recommend the 34 second video. i’m curious about the date of recording (not enough to pursue).
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Pelerin wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:35 pm
RZehr wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:48 pm I’m hoping that someone smart will watch that Carl Sagan video link, and tell me in 5 year old language how the physics of radio and sound waves are same/similar/different in terms of still existing in the future.

According to the video, radio and television broadcasts go on and on. As such those voices being broadcast on these radio waves go on and on.

But does a spoken word, that isn’t broadcast on a radio wave, do the same thing?
No… the words you speak are transmitted by vibrating matter, mainly air and once it reaches the vacuum of space sound can go no further.

But… the vibrations in the air will vibrate the walls a little bit, which will vibrate the ground, all the way through the earth and so on, continuing to have an effect forever until the heat death of the universe, though they’d be almost impossible to reconstruct.

For that matter… the matter your sound waves move will cause (extremely minute) gravity waves to ripple out into the universe. So in a sense, yes, every word you’ve ever spoken is still “out there” somewhere.
Thank you. So it is different in this regard than radio waves.
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