Wife: yah, I can see uses for it in work settings or doing an abstract for a study if you carefully proofread and edit. I can even imagine how useful it would be to help write stories, books or articles if I tweaked things around/took out or added things. I think it might help in those contexts. Given how many novels are just clones of other novels, I don’t see an ethical problem with having an ai help you write a book as long as it’s not a piece of junk.Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:44 pmSchools are very much wrestling with what this means for academia. I think there are ways to use GPT and LLMs that enhanced education and critical thinking, I also think there are ways to use GPT and LLMs to avoid thinking at all and to cheat. And schools are going to have to figure out which is which. If students have access to the Internet, they have access to GPT and LLMs.
That's similar to other technologies like the Internet, Google, and Wikipedia. Or in earlier days, paper or video. The tools we have change the game.
If I do a 500 word abstract that summarizes a paper that I wrote, and I then edit the result, that doesn't seem to be quite plagiarism. Especially if I generate several from different perspectives, then write an abstract with the best from each. If it makes my writing better, and I'm still doing the thinking, it doesn't make me feel too guilty. Should it? How is it different from working with a professional editor?
I suppose this depends partly on context. At work, I could hire an editor to do this work if I had the budget and there would be no ethical issue. And the editor could generally do it better. That's different from writing an essay for school, where it's morally wrong to get that kind of help.
For school assignments, I agree with you. I don't think it's made me lazier in the settings I use it in, though. I'm working just as hard, but differently. I think I'm as actively engaged, and I have to check everything that is generated before I can trust it.Soloist wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:42 pmI know there would have been times when I would have loved to have chat GPT help me write things in middle/high school, but it sounds like it's just going to make students lazier. Even if you change some of it to make it your own, you are having a robot do a large portion of your homework for you.
I just remember how big my school was about preventing plagerism and they could run a text search on whether your paper showed up anywhere else online. If I’m writing a story or an essay for class, even if I do several different versions and change some of it to make it my own, I would have it done a lot quicker and easier than if I had to do it without ai help. The average student would not use chatgpt for only honorable purposes if they thought they could get away with it. I guess running it through a test to see how much was AI generated would help, but I can see a big headache for high school and college teachers.