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I'm trying to get a couple copies of this software at a reasonable price. Can anyone help me?

If you know of an earlier version for cheap, I may be interested in that as well.

Thanks

Ernie wrote:I'm trying to get a couple copies of this software at a reasonable price. Can anyone help me?

If you know of an earlier version for cheap, I may be interested in that as well.

Thanks

I found that Microsoft's trial version seems to run fine indefinitely. I run it in Oracle VirtualBox on Windows XP on my Mac.

Josh wrote:

Ernie wrote:I'm trying to get a couple copies of this software at a reasonable price. Can anyone help me?

If you know of an earlier version for cheap, I may be interested in that as well.

Thanks

I found that Microsoft's trial version seems to run fine indefinitely. I run it in Oracle VirtualBox on Windows XP on my Mac.

It did not work for me on Windows 10. After a couple weeks I couldn't use it.

Ernie wrote:It did not work for me on Windows 10. After a couple weeks I couldn't use it.

Probably because I have it in an old Windows XP VM then... there's really no good source for this software anymore. Microsoft doesn't sell it anymore, and the used software market for it is pretty moribund.

I would have no moral / ethical qualms about using an unlicenced copy of it, as Microsoft does not have any interest in pursuing unlicenced users of old copies of software anymore.

Josh wrote: I would have no moral / ethical qualms about using an unlicenced copy of it, as Microsoft does not have any interest in pursuing unlicenced users of old copies of software anymore.

I wouldn't either, and although I don't use it myself, I do install it for free for my customers. (I just make a small charge to cover the time involved in installation & the telephone call to register it. This is almost always or always grouped with other service work.) Here's how I explain it to my customers: Microsoft abandoned the program, and do not offer anything in its place. They are also no longer supporting it, so giving it away does not deprive them of any potential income.

Of course it is becoming more & more out-dated, but (to my knowledge & in my opinion) it is still the best off-line map program.

Neto wrote:I wouldn't either, and although I don't use it myself, I do install it for free for my customers. (I just make a small charge to cover the time involved in installation & the telephone call to register it. This is almost always or always grouped with other service work.) Here's how I explain it to my customers: Microsoft abandoned the program, and do not offer anything in its place. They are also no longer supporting it, so giving it away does not deprive them of any potential income.

Of course it is becoming more & more out-dated, but (to my knowledge & in my opinion) it is still the best off-line map program.

I've been thinking about taking the (free) data from OpenStreetMap and assembling it along with some free software into a package for off-line map usage. Do you think there would be much interest in this?

Particularly, it could be updated with a DVD, flash drive, etc. periodically.

Josh wrote:

Neto wrote:I wouldn't either, and although I don't use it myself, I do install it for free for my customers. (I just make a small charge to cover the time involved in installation & the telephone call to register it. This is almost always or always grouped with other service work.) Here's how I explain it to my customers: Microsoft abandoned the program, and do not offer anything in its place. They are also no longer supporting it, so giving it away does not deprive them of any potential income.

Of course it is becoming more & more out-dated, but (to my knowledge & in my opinion) it is still the best off-line map program.

I've been thinking about taking the (free) data from OpenStreetMap and assembling it along with some free software into a package for off-line map usage. Do you think there would be much interest in this?

Particularly, it could be updated with a DVD, flash drive, etc. periodically.

If it had an easy to use interface like Streets & Trips, yes, I believe so. A number of our customers use Streets & Trips to plan deliveries, and probably even more use it to estimate shipping costs for their customers. It's quick & easy, so they like it. It may not catch on right away, but as S&T 2013 becomes more & more outdated, the demand for something else will increase, and with the way things are going, I don't anticipate any major software company coming out with anything comparable for off-line use.

Josh wrote:

Neto wrote:I wouldn't either, and although I don't use it myself, I do install it for free for my customers. (I just make a small charge to cover the time involved in installation & the telephone call to register it. This is almost always or always grouped with other service work.) Here's how I explain it to my customers: Microsoft abandoned the program, and do not offer anything in its place. They are also no longer supporting it, so giving it away does not deprive them of any potential income.

Of course it is becoming more & more out-dated, but (to my knowledge & in my opinion) it is still the best off-line map program.

I've been thinking about taking the (free) data from OpenStreetMap and assembling it along with some free software into a package for off-line map usage. Do you think there would be much interest in this?

Particularly, it could be updated with a DVD, flash drive, etc. periodically.

Have you considered ARC Map?

It is my understanding it will import datapoint in access or excel.

J.M.

ArcGIS isn't free is it?

Josh wrote:ArcGIS isn't free is it?

No. But not terribly expensive if you use the "nonprofit" route.

J.M.