James Webb
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silentreader
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Re: James Webb
I read an article about this last night. Quite interesting. Seems they were wrong about some things and will have to speculate again.
This is all that it is is educated speculation. I have no problem with them speculating as long as those speculating are honest and state that it is not fact, but speculation.
This is all that it is is educated speculation. I have no problem with them speculating as long as those speculating are honest and state that it is not fact, but speculation.
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Re: James Webb
Thanks for the link.
This is interesting and a good example of science in progress since at this point they have only published a peer review draft and not the final paper which will no doubt undergo further editing and revision.
Here is the Journal of Nature draft article referenced by the story above: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05786-2
Here is the actual paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586- ... erence.pdf
One thing they have done (which I haven't seen happen often) is they have published the complete peer review comments and responses by the authors. Interesting reading. It is beyond my understanding of astronomy in many cases, but it is interesting to see the degree of detail in which other scientists have poured over this work prior to publication. The peer review comments and responses are 34 pages long. It is interesting to see the back and forth between the paper's authors and the anonymous peer reviewers as they tighten up and revise their work in response to the peer review process.
https://static-content.springer.com/esm ... M1_ESM.pdf
This is interesting and a good example of science in progress since at this point they have only published a peer review draft and not the final paper which will no doubt undergo further editing and revision.
Here is the Journal of Nature draft article referenced by the story above: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05786-2
Here is the actual paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586- ... erence.pdf
One thing they have done (which I haven't seen happen often) is they have published the complete peer review comments and responses by the authors. Interesting reading. It is beyond my understanding of astronomy in many cases, but it is interesting to see the degree of detail in which other scientists have poured over this work prior to publication. The peer review comments and responses are 34 pages long. It is interesting to see the back and forth between the paper's authors and the anonymous peer reviewers as they tighten up and revise their work in response to the peer review process.
https://static-content.springer.com/esm ... M1_ESM.pdf
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Re: James Webb
yep. if only there was honesty about educated speculation AND experiments.Robert wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:42 am I read an article about this last night. Quite interesting. Seems they were wrong about some things and will have to speculate again.
This is all that it is is educated speculation.
I have no problem with them speculating as long as those speculating are honest and state that it is not fact, but speculation.
so much that is foisted upon the world is passed off as fact when it’s not.
honesty is needed, AND built-in provisions for when speculation and/or experiments go wrong.
humility prevents humiliation.
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with even modest attempt at presenting balanced facts from the start.
”We’re all just walking each other home.”
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Re: James Webb
An update....
There is an internal link to studies in Nature Astronomy.
https://www.livescience.com/james-webb- ... e-big-bang
There is an internal link to studies in Nature Astronomy.
https://www.livescience.com/james-webb- ... e-big-bang
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