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by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:34 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

You say we're talking about mass atrocities against civilians at a level that most governments do not do. Which may perhaps be the case strictly as worded, but change that phrase "do not do" to "would not do" and it's a whole different story. Time and time again violence against...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:25 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

Here's what I struggle with. Isn't Hamas doing the same thing? They have a lot less power than Israel, so they do what terrorist groups do. And sure, there is no such thing as clean, fair terrorism either. But I don't hear people talking about Hamas and Israel the same way here. Is it somehow bette...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

You say we're talking about mass atrocities against civilians at a level that most governments do not do. Which may perhaps be the case strictly as worded, but change that phrase "do not do" to "would not do" and it's a whole different story. Time and time again violence against...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:08 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

We're not talking about holding governments to Kingdom of God standards. We're talking about mass atrocities against civilians at a level that most governments do not do. And I think some of these posts let Israel off the hook, imply that these civilians don't count, that Israel can do whatever the...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:58 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

I don't think that RZehr or GaryK are in any way letting Israel off the hook. I think what they are highlighting is that when we start to talk about "rules of engagement" or criticizing one country or another for their failure to adhere to "rules of war" it implies that it's not...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:54 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

I think it's entirely possible to mourn wars and to long for peace while at the same time recognizing the practices that earthly governments have historically used in wartime and to recognize that it will continue in the future as well. But even earthly governments condemn what both Israel and Hama...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:29 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Why aren't Mennonites Constantinian?
Replies: 66
Views: 1708

Re: Why aren't Mennonites Constantinian?

Mennonet is not even close to a good representation of what I’m talking about - even by the CA professing ones here unfortunately. I don’t know why exactly it can’t gain much traction but I’ve tried. It personally works many times better in person where people can see the expression and countenance...
by Bootstrap
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:12 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

I don’t know if it is cynicism or callousness. Maybe hopeless. Maybe acceptance. It's a decision to not hunger and thirst for righteousness, a decision to not mourn what really should be mourned, a decision to justify truly horrible things and let one side off the hook - but not the other side. I d...
by Bootstrap
Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:44 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: War in Gaza
Replies: 313
Views: 63863

Re: War in Gaza

Just because Hamas won't agree to the terms for hostage release doesn't mean that those not supporting Hamas should go without water, food, and healthcare. Last I heard, about 80% of Gaza supports Hamas. I suspect Israel sees themselves at war with Gaza. Why supply your enemy with supplies to use a...
by Bootstrap
Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:34 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Why aren't Mennonites Constantinian?
Replies: 66
Views: 1708

Re: Why aren't Mennonites Constantinian?

Then they aren’t preaching it accurately or preach one way but live another. But I think Mennonites can sometimes underestimate the extent to which we do the same. I think we do get this right when it comes to military involvement. In general, if all of God's children who understand the core messag...