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Josh wrote: Every adoption is a tragedy.

Heir's wasn't. It was his lifeline out of depravity. I think what you are trying to say is that the depravity in his bio family was the tragedy, not the adoption.

Wow, Heir, I would imagine you might breathe a prayer of thanksgiving quite often for your good fortune in being adopted. I agree with Josh that when conditions are healthy, children growing up with bio parents is the best. But in cases like Heir's, adoption was far and away the best option left on ...

Heir, I was kind of hoping this thread wasn't dead yet! And you did a really good job of defending your premise for the "nurture" side of things. Your healthy experience with your own adoption helps to bolster your case. I may have come out too strongly on the "nature" side becau...

Josh wrote: I live in a community where adoption is rampant

Mercy! It sounds like a bad disease!

Just came across these young ladies this evening, never heard of them before.
Singing "There is a Fountain Filled With Blood"; absolutely beautiful harmony.
Might have something to do with them being triplets.

I heard a sermon a few months back that referenced birth parents as "without natural affection" because they don't love the children they give away. :x Grrrr. That sermon would not have gone down well with me. It is true in some cases but absolutely not true in others. Some mothers are in...

I need to step away from this thread. I have neither the time nor the energy to deal with everything being put forth here. Nor can I stomach reading much more of it. This damaged goods mentality is obviously thick but I'm not playing. queserasera, I hope you didn't step away because of anything I s...

I heard a sermon a few months back that referenced birth parents as "without natural affection" because they don't love the children they give away. :x Grrrr. That sermon would not have gone down well with me. It is true in some cases but absolutely not true in others. Some mothers are in...

My cousin Pablo from Nicaragua sent out an interesting newsletter several days ago; maybe some of you get it. It sounds like Covid took their area by storm recently. He said 90% of the adult population had some level of Covid symptoms, most were mild but there were several people that were very sick...

For $80, perhaps a Cuisinart? Here's a review that made it look good. https://www.simplyrecipes.com/why_this_80_cuisinart_ice_cream_maker_is_the_best_ice_cream_maker_for_families/ Yep, if you don't need a big batch, the Cuisinart is the way to go. No ice or salt needed.We had ice cream this evening.