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I'm sorry, I may have overreacted.
It seems like unless we have the benefit of hearing both sides of a story, it's easy to simply believe rumors.

Uh - who? Both you and Quietobserver seem to be somehow associating Steve Stutzman by implication to this puzzling pm simply because his name is in the subject line. The content isn't even about him. Steve does work with some pretty broken people. If I were to venture a guess, the post was sent by ...

Hats Off wrote:Uh - who?

Both you and Quietobserver seem to be somehow associating Steve Stutzman by implication to this puzzling pm simply because his name is in the subject line. The content isn't even about him.

I think it's pretty inappropriate behavior to be character assassinating someone simply because his name is in a subject line of a puzzling pm.

Shame on you.

It appears that Steve Stutzman is in the subject line.

Josh are you indicating that you think that the message is from Steve Stutzman?

Is there anyway to know if ozarkbreeze is Steve Stutzman?

Thank you for this,Ken.
I have heard or read bits and pieces of thoughts similar to this, but I haven't seen an entire summary.

I think when we are unwilling to discuss our Skeletons with anyone it means the Gospel still has to penetrate deeper into our reality. I do not say this lightly, because sin causes great pain. But if the truth of the Gospel can't go to the very deepest places of our brokeness, its worthless. The La...

Hey, thanks for thinking about this with me! Ok, having thought this over...I understand that perpetrator and victim are currently legal terms that imply crime rather than any specific sin. If I steal from you or deliberately hit you with my car, I am also the perpetrator and you are also the victim...

Ms. Izzie wrote:Why is the Perpetrator/Victim frame something to be "grappled" with?

Because it is not a frame Anabaptists would have historically used to address wrongs done to someone. It is terminology that has a particular meaning that does not come from a biblical viewpoint.

I feel it would be good to engage with noted historians (Ruth comes to mind; Chester Weaver is another that comes to mind) and ask them this question. With that said, the history of Holdemanism is one worth exploring. John Holdeman departed from a congregation between 1859 - 1884 which eventually b...