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Daniel Perry - Should he have been pardoned? Why or why not? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69013312 P.S. I often don't vote right away on my polls as I don't want to give away my leanings. :-) People shoot each other frequently in this country and go through standard channels of investig...

So being murdered by a complete stranger is exceedingly rare. 2000 people being murdered each year in the US is not something I would call "exceedingly rare". I know of people who have been murdered by strangers. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195327/murder-in-the-us-by-relationship-...

Daniel Perry - Should he have been pardoned? Why or why not?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69013312

P.S. I often don't vote right away on my polls as I don't want to give away my leanings.

barnhart wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 8:57 pm Models are just models. North Korea, China and the Soviet Union are/were democratic republics, at least on paper. What counts is the internal relationships. All models can be subverted into unhealthy tyrannies.

Correct. What we are looking at in this thread is functional governance.

I don't know which model would describe conservative Mennonites. In some ways, since the leaders are chosen from among the church membership, they are representative, but not really, because once ordained, there is no further formal mechanism for the membership to inform the leadership. Because lea...

The Quaker method of governance by consensus doesn't really fit into any of your above categories. It is not direct democracy. Consensus is something different. I suspect churches truly move forward only by consensus regardless of the governance model. There must be a common vision and those who di...

barnhart wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 8:12 pm In your list do episcopal and presbyterian both fall under representative democracy.

I'm not familiar with how they work.

I know of churches that basically operate as: Direct Democracies Representative Democracies Democratic Republics Totalitarian Democracies Monarchies Autocracies Oligarchies Puppet states In each of the above, it is assumed that Jesus is the head of the church and that the Holy Spirit is working thro...

A thread to discuss church government models...

Enos and Carolyn Miller at Tea-n-Bannock Restaurant used to meet in their restaurant for church. I’ve never been, but I can guarantee that time spent with Enos is fascinating! Does anyone know the name of this church? You may need to contact Signtist. Are you coming to the funeral? Yes, we are in O...