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steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 9:19 am What about the Hornings and Joe Wengers and their baseball leagues? Or is that not a thing anymore?

I don't know much about them. My statements were generalisations - the more conservative the group, the less comfortable they are with organised sports.

Sorry, but I don't buy into your "Christian nationalism" conspiracy theory, nor do I think it's somehow worse when Christians support Trump or Republicans versus Christians supporting Bob Dole, George Bush, Obama, or Democrats. The conservative Anabaptist position is that we shouldn't be r...

Professional or amateur sports? No plain Anabaptist would be OK with being a professional athlete. Most conservative Anabaptists wouldn't be OK with amateur sports like playing in college or the Olympics. Most (but not quite as many) conservative Anabaptists wouldn't be ok with organised sports at ...

To many, many Americans this is now what Evangelical means. It is deeply at odds with what the Bible says, no matter how much they love the Bible as a symbol. I think that's the kind of thing that Christians really should discuss. Well, some of us aren't evangelical, but also try to temper our word...

I'm not sure why you are obsessed with porn in the mail since practically no one consumes porn that way anymore. I'm not. Someone else brought it up. It is simply an example of something Jesus and his followers wouldn't do. But fine, let's use your porn example. Say you have dinner and tip your wai...

JimFoxvog wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:03 am Do you really think that removing a mattress tag and trying to stay in power (by violent and other illegal methods) after losing an election are the same thing?

Yet that's not what he's being charged with. He's being charged with "falsifying business records" under an arcane statute.

Ken wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:07 pm Wow, you are sure not paying attention then.

I'm not obsessed with Trump or news about him and thus don't go digging up every example of some MAGA thing I can find. (What's wrong with the idea of making America great, anyway? Should we make America terrible?)

In my church, we even talk about why we don't fly American flags or say the Pledge of Allegiance. This Bible seems like another example of where I don't think Christians should go. I'm surprised you put so much energy into defending this by deflection. Would you do that if we were discussing church...

That is ridiculous and is quite different. However, if I found that someone wanted me to take them to such a place, I would probably decline to drive them there. I don't support men going to things like brothels, strip clubs, and so on and would not want to play any part in the exploitation of wome...

When I say "Beachy" I mean the mainstream Beachy constituency, which as a rule becomes more worldly over time until it is indistinguishable from non-plain churches. I could also pick on the CMC for this, except their transition to non-plainness is almost complete. The transition with the O...