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Is someone saved as headed to heaven before baptism or not?

This is a simple yes/no question.

I read the same thing.

If present trends continue, the only churchgoers left will be some traditionalist Catholics, Oneness Pentecostals, plain Anabaptists, and other assorted fringe groups like JWs.

Some of the material in his Wikipedia is content that I wrote. He’s not paying me for it. Why should he be supported for what he did but not me? I licenced it freely, but expected anyone who copied what I wrote to comply with the licence terms, which is to not prohibit someone else from copying it....

Which position does FotW hold? “Baptism is required for salvation”. vs “It is possible for someone to be saved before they are baptised.” Once again, we believe that salvation is a process. We have been saved, we are being saved, and we shall be saved. So, I believe both statements above. Baptism I...

Which position does FotW hold? “Baptism is required for salvation”. vs “It is possible for someone to be saved before they are baptised.” See, in my denomination, the criteria for salvation isn’t unclear or ambiguous. Belief in Jesus’ offer of free salvstiin, and then a desire to accept that free g...

Which position does FotW hold? “Baptism is required for salvation”. vs “It is possible for someone to be saved before they are baptised.” See, in my denomination, the criteria for salvation isn’t unclear or ambiguous. Belief in Jesus’ offer of free salvstiin, and then a desire to accept that free gi...

Some of the material in his Wikipedia is content that I wrote. He’s not paying me for it. Why should he be supported for what he did but not me? I licenced it freely, but expected anyone who copied what I wrote to comply with the licence terms, which is to not prohibit someone else from copying it. ...

Perhaps the reality is that the people with ethnic and religious affiliation moved - probably to escape Baltimore’s ridiculous levels of crime. When I lived in Baltimore, it was the reverse. The neighborhood I lived in was gentrifying and pushing out the locals. The so-called "Baltimore Renais...

Yes, that's him. I'd say he has done a tremendous amount of work, pouring through basically all of the articles that might contain photos, diagrams, or text info that a conservative parent would not want to have available to a child. (It is, of course, a parent's rightful place to be able to do thi...

ohio jones wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:51 pm

mike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:46 pm I'm thinking primarily about industries specifically tailored to low-tech Anabaptists.

And that can be provided by high-tech Anabaptists, right?

More specifically, high-tech ethnic Anabaptists who have an ethnic last name and originally came from a low-tech group.