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by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 7:39 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Justice
Replies: 10
Views: 131

Re: Justice

I'm actually trying to figure out your thinking. Because if we're supposed to obey the law, then obviously lethal self defense and death penalties are acceptable and you don't prescribe to that. Prevention is certainly wise, but not everyone is going to be so fortunate as to avoid every criminals. ...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 7:38 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Autocrat vs Institutionalist
Replies: 49
Views: 993

Re: Autocrat vs Institutionalist

You sound like my Calvinist friends. 8-) Total Depravity aside, let's keep this discussion where it belongs as a conversation about general leadership, or start a thread up in the "theology" section if you'd like. Anyway, there are ethical and non-ethical moral and immoral people of all s...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 7:19 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Justice
Replies: 10
Views: 131

Re: Justice

Signtist wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:19 pm We all know what the Bible says about negligence causing death. Are you suggesting similar courses of action today?
Do you think sinful man today somehow can come up with better justice than God himself did?
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 7:19 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Justice
Replies: 10
Views: 131

Re: Justice

Ok, Josh. Do you have kids? I don't remember. Let's suppose you do, and one of your daughters gets raped, and you discover who it is. What does justice for your daughter look like? Suppose one of your sons is murdered, and the killer is caught. What does justice for your dead son look like? I use t...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 7:16 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Autocrat vs Institutionalist
Replies: 49
Views: 993

Re: Autocrat vs Institutionalist

You sound like my Calvinist friends. 8-) Total Depravity aside, let's keep this discussion where it belongs as a conversation about general leadership, or start a thread up in the "theology" section if you'd like. Anyway, there are ethical and non-ethical moral and immoral people of all s...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Autocrat vs Institutionalist
Replies: 49
Views: 993

Re: Autocrat vs Institutionalist

Are any of those important to you? And worthy of consideration? Dan Z cited concern about nuclear weapons; the simple fact is that America gets an F there, since they used them unnecessarily in a war simply to cause mass terror and win. No one else has ever used one. Hypotheticals don’t count. We c...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 5:58 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Justice
Replies: 10
Views: 131

Re: Justice

To truly understand justice, though, we can simply read the Bible. God even gave us a perfect law code so that we can understand what is just. We have ample instruction for how to treat each other equitably. But what is the Biblical advice for when that code of ethics is broken? It has a prescribed...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 5:55 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Autocrat vs Institutionalist
Replies: 49
Views: 993

Re: Autocrat vs Institutionalist

So far, the only nuclear weapons deployed in war or against civilians was the United States during the height of institutionalism. That’s an argument against, not for, institutionalism. Autocratic regimes, on the other hand, have mysteriously never actually made good on any nuclear threats. I strugg...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Justice
Replies: 10
Views: 131

Re: Justice

Concepts of justice mostly flow from pagan, heathen systems centred around vengeance or else systems of control based on “might makes right”; some modern concepts of it are based on utilitarian ethics, which has a different set of problems. To truly understand justice, though, we can simply read the...
by Josh
Tue May 14, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Autocrat vs Institutionalist
Replies: 49
Views: 993

Re: Autocrat vs Institutionalist

So... if pointing out the depravity of Donald Trump simply convinces people to support Biden instead, then in a spiritual sense what really has been gained? However, if the pastor's message brings conservative Christians to their senses regarding the false hope and misplaced allegiance they have pl...