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Models are just models. North Korea, China and the Soviet Union are/were democratic republics, at least on paper. What counts is the internal relationships. All models can be subverted into unhealthy tyrannies.

The Quaker method of governance by consensus doesn't really fit into any of your above categories. It is not direct democracy. Consensus is something different. I suspect churches truly move forward only by consensus regardless of the governance model. There must be a common vision and those who di...

The Quaker method of governance by consensus doesn't really fit into any of your above categories. It is not direct democracy. Consensus is something different. I suspect churches truly move forward only by consensus regardless of the governance model. There must be a common vision and those who di...

In your list do episcopal and presbyterian both fall under representative democracy. I'm not familiar with how they work. Episcopal is rule by a body of bishops. Presbyterian falls between that and congregationalism, where the ruling body is composed of non ordained elders appointed by the congrega...

In your list do episcopal and presbyterian both fall under representative democracy.

I'm also not enthused about the political system but neither am I despondent, nor do I feel I am being cheated or stolen from nor mistreated. A majority of the world's population would trade with me and take the deal on offer regardless of the next president or the next. I am quite blessed and grat...

These are actual people Jesus cares about. If you are following Jesus, you will show compassion as Jesus would. I hope they never, never read this thread and stay far away from Mennonet. May Jesus comfort and care for them on the road ahead.

mike wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:29 pmI guess people just don't care.

Nihilism is a factor, I think. In the past I have been accused of not caring because I don't vote, now it feels like the shoe is on the other foot.

A couple of questions. 1. How can this tendency to proselytize and make a zealot out of someone be distinguished from genuine evangelistic and outreach efforts, which are clearly a part of our task as Christians? 2. What is meant by "traveling across sea and land" - is Jesus implying that...

My guess is most favor autocracy when their favored positions are in a minority position.