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This subject should be spun off into its own thread. I see both Sightist's point and Josh's, both at the same time. I'm not gonna fight about it. Josh is absolutely right that nobody quits until they hit rock bottom. He is also right that drug use is a choice. I doubt very much that he's correct wh...

The 3 years old Newswanger girl swept over a 400 ft waterfalls in Jackson county ,NC.....I've been to that waterfalls , It's a very dangerous and slippery area on top, That the 3 years old was allowed to play there in the sand , was neglient in so many ways , I can't hardly count them all.... i und...

Simple. Very simple. There are a lot of things that have simple formulas that are incredibly hard to implement and see through to completion. Anyway, I said I wasn't gonna argue, and I've gone ahead and argued.

Maybe we're addicted to the need to be right.

steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:43 am

Josh wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:41 am Incidentally, I wear boxers (given my strong stance against cross dressing).

As do I!

Never was much of a briefs kinda guy

Boxer briefs. Best of both worlds. And if you happen to buy Manmade you'll discover they solve problems you didn't realize you had. According to their ads, anyway.

OK.

As much as we like and want to help, want to see lives transformed and delivered, or else might just have a saviour complex, the success ultimately rests on the addict. There is no technique, no empathy, no magic formula that can be found. They need to do it largely themselves - yes, we want to be ...

Then I also need to wonder if there isn't a direct spiritual connection as well. Jesus didn't tell possessed people to just quit their behaviours. He delivered them. I suspect there is something we could learn about the connection between the spirit realm and drug use.

This subject should be spun off into its own thread. I see both Sightist's point and Josh's, both at the same time. I'm not gonna fight about it. Josh is absolutely right that nobody quits until they hit rock bottom. He is also right that drug use is a choice. I doubt very much that he's correct wh...

Ultimately, stopping using drugs isn't that hard. When someone truly hits rock bottom, they'll stop using and get clean. My spirit disagrees with this statement. It could be correct, somehow. It is also unhelpful and in my opinion barely passes the test of Christian charity. Let’s try another examp...

Josh wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:25 amUltimately, stopping using drugs isn't that hard. When someone truly hits rock bottom, they'll stop using and get clean.

My spirit disagrees with this statement. It could be correct, somehow. It is also unhelpful and in my opinion barely passes the test of Christian charity.