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Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:12 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

RZehr wrote:I was trying to point out if someone believes it is okay to lie sometimes, then they could be lying at anytime.
Which is why the reader or listener has the responsibility to verify, even if the author states he is telling the truth - something done every day in courtrooms.
by follower
Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:38 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

I was more asking the question of your issue with Hat's off's analysis- why you seem to dismiss it- I'd be interested in your thoughts about that because he seems to be applying the most common Anabaptist view- that once Jesus, God incarnate- did His 'earthly' teachings and ministry- many Old Testa...
by follower
Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:23 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

Consider this postulate - there are three general classes that God uses to communicate with us. These are found in both the OT and NT. 1. He informs us before we're aware of the issue or when we first see the issue. 2. He informs us when we ask him. This can be right away, or in many cases it's afte...
by follower
Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:08 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

I don't think this is 100% clear cut. But the vast majority of us will probably never be in a situation where it would be okay. If you find yourself in situations dealing with sensitive, classified, confidential, secret or other restricted information classes, it becomes more common - and needed mo...
by follower
Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:59 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

Follower, I don't understand what you mean by Samuel lying. Do you think he didn't sacrifice, or didn't come in peace, or what? Well, all those things are true - but were those the underlying, actual reasons for Samuel's visit? Clearly not, because Samuel says Saul will kill him if he finds out Sam...
by follower
Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:54 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

i've been thinking about this off and on this weekend. this was the top religious leader of the time. when he said, "i'm coming to sacrifice to God," no one questioned him. his motive was NOT to worship God, his motive was to overthrow the current king. and the coup was sanctioned by God....
by follower
Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:50 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

Thank for the thoughts, but I don't consider that the best understanding of the issue. Could you please explain why? Or what you are thinking about this in relation to the Scriptures you shared? This is one of those cases where it behooves people to think more deeply about this issue, and the broad...
by follower
Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:05 pm
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

Thank for the thoughts, but I don't consider that the best understanding of the issue.
by follower
Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:02 am
Forum: General Theology
Topic: Is it ever OK to lie?
Replies: 87
Views: 4375

Re: Is it ever OK to lie?

So how about 1 Samuel 16? 16 And the Lord said unto Samuel, How long wilt thou mourn for Saul, seeing I have rejected him from reigning over Israel? fill thine horn with oil, and go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I have provided me a king among his sons. 2 And Samuel said, How can ...